Too HIgh
 

I just left the rifle range and was sighting in my Black Dimond and I have got to say I found the sweet spot for the gun what a nice group. The only problem is they are 6 in high and I can't get the scope to adjust any lower. I am using shoot through rings which hold the scope high so I don't have to remove the back sight. If I go to regular rings do you think this will lower my POI or do they make some kind of shimm for the back mount. Or what else do you think I can do.

RE: Too HIgh
 

Is it 6" high at 100 yards? If so, Leave it! lol. It should be close to dead on at 200 yards. I had my inline last year sighted in 7" high at 100 and dead on at 200.

RE: Too High
 

IMHO forget about that kind of ring and get the scope as close to the gun as you can. but if you have to have it you will need to shim one end of the scope up ,and if memory servers it will have to be the front ring that will need the shim.if it dont work it goes in the back ring

RE: Too High
 

Shimming can be difficult, and sometimes difficult to maintain. Burris makes a ring that has built in shims, I would recomend the Burris rings. I have seen several MZ's with this problem, your problem is not irregular, Tom.

RE: Too High
 

If you have no experience with shimming, and want to keep the see through mounts, take the rifle to a qualified gun smith. They will have the right shims and tools, and can bore sight it to get you on paper. In the long run the little they charge for their service is well worth the agravation trying to do it yourself costs. I had one scope that refused to come down no matter how hard I tried. I ended up sending the scope back.

RE: Too HIgh
 

http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=914&title=SCOPE+SHIM+KIT

RE: Too HIgh
 

Try swithing front and back rings, especally if they are made for that gun sometimes they have to be in the front or back to fit right I have a Rugar like that. Lee

RE: Too HIgh
 

Actually, shimming the back of your base will make your shots hit HIGHER. I had to shim the rear of my scope base on my encore to raise the point of impact.. I used shims made from aluminum pop cans. They are basically little half inch squares trimmed flush with the base. Each shim caused about 7" difference in the point of impact.

RE: Too HIgh
 

Thanks guys I just took the scope off and mounted it with low scope rings. I didn't have to remove the rear sight but theres like 1/16 of an inch between the scope and the rear sight. it takes up about 1/4 of the way up the glass but I can't see it when I look through the scope. I don't think it will hurt anything do you?

RE: Too HIgh
 

I can see my sights in my scope and mine is that way.. it shoots fine.

RE: Too HIgh
 

Try taking the scope off and rotate the rings 180 degrees and reinstall the scope. I had the same problem with one of my guns with scope and this did the trick.

RE: Too High
 

Yes, this gentleman is correct. There are several serious drawbacks to those "see-'em-under" mounts. The first problem is that they treat your scope as the auxiliary sight, putting it up in the air so you have to get your face up off the comb of the stock to use it. The scope is the primary sight, and chances are very sliim that you will ever need the iron sights anyway. Having the scope up in the air this way is unsteady and slow, making it difficult to acquire the target. In addition, and even worse, those setups are pretty weak, allowing the scope to get knocked out of alignment too easily in the field. (Look how thin those aluminum rings are!!)

As regards shimming, if the rifle is shooting too high, the shim needs to be placed on the bottom of the front ring, so that the scope center will point higher in relation to the spot on the target where the bullets are hitting. This makes you have to depress the muzzle some to get the reticle on the point of impact, thus lowering where the bullet srikes.

A small group, however, is the mostimportant thing because you can move it to anyplace you want it on the target by fiddling with the scope adjustments and mount setup.

RE: Too HIgh
 

No, as long as the sight is not touching the scope, there will be no problem......