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my encore hates them things .what would re crowning the barrel do for me? I'm thinking of taking off 1/2 an inch or more of the barrel just to see if that makes a difference.
one time wile shooting power belts at the range i found one of them skirts stuck in the target a hundred yards from the bench. the only thing i could figure was that it got blown over the bullet and carriedon the bullet when it left the bore. the hole in the skirt was about 1/2 an inch....... weird

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I have a fried who has the skirts he dug out of deer, he was looking for the bullet but all he found was little chuncks of lead, neither one came out the far side. Since they shoot better than any thing else in his Omega hes hoping the new harder one have a better design. Lee

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I take it you like the powerbelts because they load easy. Since you're having trouble with the skirts, are you shooting Triple Se7en powder in large amounts?

Another thing is before you load the powerbelt, remove the plastic base and you will see a small lead spike off the conical. Put a dab of bore butter on that spike and then put the skirt back on. It will help shed the thing faster and better.

I really see no reason why you would shoot powerbelts out of your Encore. Instead get some Shockwaves and shoot something better. Unless you are restricted where you can not shoot sabots. In that even I would look into some of the other concicals out there on the market before I would pay the price of powerbelts... IMO.

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I found one of those skirts inside an elk and that elk was shot at 177 yards.This was a 348 aerotip in an Omega,115 T7. Unless I can find a better load that is what I am using this year. Co. has to be conical, I would like to use my White but so far have not found a hunting load.
Redclub

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I would not recommend re-crowning your Encore barrel to get it to love Powerbelts (my very last choice in projectiles).

I would try a nice sabot or conical before I started carving on the barrel.

I have had exceptional results from these.

Hornady 250 & 300 gr SST
Horday, 250gr MAG
Hornady 385 & 410gr Great Plains Conical.

Tahquamenon

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Removing the flared-out QLA removes ease of loading -- nothing else. I classify thelast 1-1/2" of your muzzle as a "fake crown". It's there to ease loading -- has nothing to do with accuracy. In essence, you don't need to buy a crown protector with these systems. You can scrape the edges with your ramrod & it won't affect accuracyfor many-manyyears to come.

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WHUT!?

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I tol' him, UC, I tol' him. "Contact UC if you need some info on heavy conicals for your Untra Mag." I tol' him.
He's having trouble with the No Excuses falling out the barrel.

Redclub - contact UC - he'll help you ;)

IM jaybe :)

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Perhaps they sent him the wrong No Excuses --maybe the.500's instead of the .503's.

If that's what happened, then there's really "No Excuses" (pun intended)for the mistake. [:o][:-]:eek::(

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UC knows all about my bullets falling out, I have some bullshop .504 coming plus I am looking to get a mic to make sure of the size. I didn't have a problem with the first 20 or so of the 460NE or the powerpunch, but then I had 3 out of 6 fall out of the barrel and the barrel was clean and fouled (3 shots).Plus I used both lubed and unlubed wads.
If I use this rifle I will only be able to shoot elk uphill:D. I will get this straightened out tho. You can go to the bank on that,Its way too good of a gun too not use it.
Ken

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i really like powerbelts in my hawkins .50cal. good idea on lube under bullet, will try that.in a in-line, i would not use powerbelts.but inflintlock, i think they are just great. i dont spend a lot of money on them as i only use them for hunting deer not target. takes me about 6 shots to sight in my hawkins.i dont use my maxi-balls now as found better mouse trap. POWERBELTS.

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I have not shot powerbelts in an Encore but have tried to shoot bore size conicals (460 gr No Excuses) In two different Black diamonds and 1 Encore with lousy results. None would hit a washtub at 100 yds. In all the rifles the QLA was bored off center from .008 to .015.

Since the rifles would shoot 250 gr sabots to 3" TC would do nothing. Colorado requires conicals and does not allow sabots.

Out of frustration I sent the Encore off and had the QLA removed and now it is very accurate with conicals and Sabots.

Just measure the QLA with some calipers and check it out. If it is bored crooked I doubt the gun will shoot powerbelts or conicals accurately.

I know some of you have had good results with the QLA but there are many that have not and had them removed

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I guess I'll echo the sentiments of what some have already posted. Unless you're required by law to use conicals, why bother? I too have an Encore and it will not shoot Powerbelts (the 295gr variety). T/C designed the Encore to shoot saboted projectiles. I cringe when I hear about people lopping off the first 1" of the barrel. I could see resorting to that in extreme cases, but not so you can just shoot powerbelts. If you really want to shoot bore sized conicals, look into White rifles. They were designed for that. Right tool for the right job.

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My Omega shoots them into a raged hole at 50 yds but I only check them in case I take a trip to some where where I have to use them. they have a trajectory like a soft ball.
I guess Doe gril expressed my opinion. Lee

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i didnt read all the posts...but curious as to why you would rather have you gun smithed to shoot powerbelts when you could surely find another bullet to do the same and shoot better?? i know diffrent states have diffrent laws and requierments etc...but just wondering why not try something diffrent??

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IF the plastic wad fails to separate from the slug portion as it should in the first 30 feet or so from the muzzle, there's just no telling where the thing will go. If you have a batch that the wads are stuck on "too good", changing the crown of your rifleain't gonna help 'nuthin'.!

I've recently begun to separate the wad from the bullet on the Powerbelts and put a little dab of light grease on the bullet stem (yes, that damn Bore Butter crap), reattach the wad, and rotate it to spread the grease around in the hole, hoping this would help them separate correctly. I think it works, but have not conducted any extensive testing, since I am on a flintlock/PRB kick these days!

The early plain-lead version of the Power Belt bullets that I tested years back, (then called Black Belt bullets), didn't seem to have this problem as much as they do now.....