22 hornet conversion kit for muzzleloaders
 

What is your take on switching from 209 primers to this?

http://www.prbullet.com/hornet.htm

RE: 22 hornet conversion kit for muzzleloaders
 

What you want is the 25 ACP conversion not the 22 Hornet. The 22 Hornet conversion has to have trimmed bras and the 25 ACP there's no trimming rquired. All I can say is that I like the 25 ACP much better in my Omega than 209 primers. It seals the against the blowback.

RE: 22 hornet conversion kit for muzzleloaders
 

I saw the 25 acp also,So it does do as good as they say,as far as cutting down on corrosion?Is it justas reliable as 209's?I'm seriously thinking about it.Also,does it increase accuracy as stated?Thanks a ton!:D

RE: 22 hornet conversion kit for muzzleloaders
 

It doesn't cut corrosion, but it does keep the blowback out of the action. I guess it could keep your action from rusting up.

I've not had a single missfire. I wouldn't use it for pellets but for loose you shouldn't have a problem.

Not in my experience. On the other hand it's no less accurate either.

RE: 22 hornet conversion kit for muzzleloaders
 

Thanks you've been very helpful.:D

RE: 22 hornet conversion kit for muzzleloaders
 

What blowback? You get blowback using 209 primers? With factory breech plugs?

I am glad I don't have that problem with my Omega. I use plain old Winchester 209's and forget about it.

As a side note my Encore has performed great without those whizbang kits for almost 10 years as well. Just plain old 209 primers, hell I still have the origional breech plug in that thing and it looks as new as the one on the Omega.

But I have no problem with people who need it to improve on a factory design. I am lucky I guess that the factory set up works fine on both my rifles.

I hope the fix doesn't cost you guys too much or I would demand the factory fix the problem.

RE: 22 hornet conversion kit for muzzleloaders
 

With 3 factory plugs. I actually have a little come out of the action.

Win 209's are all I've ever used.

I wish it had been that way with mine.

$59.99 plus the tools to prime the brass. It's worth it to me. My Omega's a shooter with a good trigger. Unless it's a safely issue I won't send it back for anything.

RE: 22 hornet conversion kit for muzzleloaders
 

You get blowback from the Encore? Through the primer hole?

RE: 22 hornet conversion kit for muzzleloaders
 

Pittsburghunter,you get no corrosion at all around the nipple,firing pin,or breech plug?I don't have a newer gun like you guys do.I have a Traditions Buckhunter pro,Inline,and it gets corrosion,blowback,rust all in the breech plug,nipple area.

I want a new gun with a longer barrel,My buckhunter's barrel is 22".I want to put a scope on the gun I'm going to buy.Iwas wanting an Apex,but it seems likethe most popular gun in that style is the omega.I don't want any corrosion or blowback.That's what I was looking at this kit for.It's supposed to help keep it cleaner.

I think Wolfhound76is referring to the corrosion.

What load are you using in your omega?Thanks.

RE: 22 hornet conversion kit for muzzleloaders
 

Any gun including cartridge guns get fowling in the breech and it needs to be cleaned. I guess with my Encore I am pretty lucky it doesn't get that much dirtier using my BP barrel compared to my centerfire ones.

RE: 22 hornet conversion kit for muzzleloaders
 

All I own is an Omega but with the 209 I get some residue on the scope. with the 25 ACP I get zero blowback as long as I swab the barrel with the 25 ACP case in it. After I swab the barrel I dump the case and load. This is from running a q-tip in the action and having it come out white. It seals really good for me. I wish my other muzzleloaders sealed the blowback out as well. Although with them the blowback is more limited on where it can go. With the Omega I've had black fouling under the barrel all the way to the ramrod. It's not a big thing but removing the stock every time I clean shifts the POI too much. I don't remove the stock till after the season is over.

RE: 22 hornet conversion kit for muzzleloaders
 

What loads are you guys shooting?

RE: 22 hornet conversion kit for muzzleloaders
 

Wolfhound76,I have the cheap [got on sale could not resist $160]one[Omega]
BEEN SHOOTING IT FOR ABOUT 7 MONTHS, so far it blacks the area around the 209 but nothing in the firing pin or action; is this problem time or number of shots related? I have shot 4 pounds of powder through it so far.
It will shoot better than I can I only have a 2.5 power scope and it will hold an inch @ a 100yd when I am shooting good. I sure hope it dont start blowing into the action. Lee

RE: 22 hornet conversion kit for muzzleloaders
 

Is there any residue on the area around the firing pin? If so there's a good chance it's in the compartment housing the pin. You pulled the pin and checked it? Mine got all kinds of garbage in it when I was shooting 209's. Nothing now but I still check every now and then.

RE: 22 hornet conversion kit for muzzleloaders
 

245 Barnes Spitfire and100 gr of FFG 777. Mine also likes the 250 Shockwave with the same powdercharge.

RE: 22 hornet conversion kit for muzzleloaders
 

Wolfhound76,Yes I pull it apart clean and oil and check the firing pin housing every 50 shots. Lee

RE: 22 hornet conversion kit for muzzleloaders
 

Your probably fine then. I had stuff getting into the firing pin area and underneath the barrel. The inside of the action, that L shaped area in the pic above was always coated with residue.

RE: 22 hornet conversion kit for muzzleloaders
 

I have been shooting 120g Triple Se7en FF with projectiles that have a minimum weight of 250g in my Encore with great results and 100g of the T7 with bullets over 250g in the Omega. I only have shot the Omega twice so far and I am setting it up to be an open sighted rifle. I actually put the sights from my Encore barrel on it and second time out I am getting less than two inch groups with the thing at 50yds.

Obviously it needs a little more work to break it in but my goal is about 2-3" at 100yds with the open sights and sub 1" at 50.

I am not going to put a bunch of time or money into the Omega it is a cheap plastic stocked rifle that is going to be for very bad weather or brush situations. I will also use it as a loaner. Last year I let someone use my Scout and that good deed was rewarded with a scar on the butt stock by a ring the guy I loaned it to was wearing.

So far the Omega is very promising in the roll I intend to use it and my best hunting buddy all the sudden thinks he needs a loaner rifle lol.