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Chris H. 05-23-2006 10:10 PM

Problems with my M700
 
Hoping to draw on the experience of others on this forum to figure out what is causing my Remington M700 to mis-fire. The problem is that the cap (No. 11)becomes crushed on the nipple, but does not fire. I figured out that if I work the bolt to cock it but leave the crushed cap in place, thenjust squeeze the trigger a second time, it will fire on the second go. Used to happen only ocasionally, but this past season it happened every time. It got so that when I went hunting I would get out of the truck and "dry" fire it once knowing that it would not fire but would be ready for a second firing when the opportunity arose in the woods. This of course is extremely dangerous so I want to get it figured out before this next season.

Thanks in advance for any help/advice you may be able to give.

Chris

skeeter 7MM 05-23-2006 11:49 PM

RE: Problems with my M700
 
1) Have you cleaned the guts of the bolt assembly?? (meaning remove the firing pin, etc from the boltto clean the spring assembly and insides?)

This must be done faithfully or you'll have problems.

2) Possibly the spring needs replacing

3) Have you tried different #11's. Brand wise

4) #11 nipple is worn down and needs replacing

Those would be my guess, I have owned a ml700 since they hit the market and probably at least 20 others who haveor still shoot the ml700. Usually the lack of cleaning the bolt assembly results in ignition problems with the #11 set up and potentially causing damage where cleaningalone won'tfix the problem (replacement parts maybe be required).

Hope it helps..good luck.

AmericanPioneer 05-24-2006 01:11 AM

RE: Problems with my M700
 
I had a cheap little blackpowder pistol manufactured by the company who made the cobray 9mm assault pistols. Got it to play around with. I use to have to use two hits on the #11 nipple to get the cap to go off. Either the nipple was too big they provide or the caps too small(brand). You say the cap crushes then fires. If so, it sounds like it isnt seated all the way down on the nipple and the first hit is just seating the caps ignition compound closer to the nipples top. I couldnt see the nipple crushing unless it wasnt supported. Has to be worn nipple, nipple size, or cap size. Some #11 brands are actually tighter than others.

sabotloader 05-24-2006 07:40 AM

RE: Problems with my M700
 
Chris H.

I am another Rem 700 owner/shooter/hunter - Skeeter gave the answers. Remington makes a tool that makes it very easy to disassemble the bolt so that you may clean it, and actually you do not need a tool but it makes it a lot easier.

If you need any help with the dis-assembly post back - I have pics around here someplace...

lemoyne 05-24-2006 08:17 PM

RE: Problems with my M700
 
Some caps that are made on contract [like the ones Dixie gun works sells are smaller than what the standerd nipple is made for;I have had to get the nipple padded with a bit of shim stock to protect the threads clampped in a drill moter and turned dowm by shaving material off with a file to get them to fit. Check to see if the cap is sitting down all the way on the nipple to see if this is the problem. Lee

Triple Se7en 05-24-2006 09:20 PM

RE: Problems with my M700
 
Change the nipple (recommend Spitfire-RedHot-HotShot)
Use another brand of caps (recommend RWS Dynamit Nobel 1075s)
Clean the bolt & areas surrounding it -- (using/recommend Breakfree CLP)

Chris H. 05-25-2006 02:40 AM

RE: Problems with my M700
 
OK. Thanks Skeeter and all for your replies. I've tried a new nipple and different caps to no avail. I'm down to cleaning the bolt assembly (which I could be more faithful at) and getting replacement parts.Sabotloader, could you provide specifics on the tool Rem. makes to disassemble the bolt? It's a real struggle to do without.Thanks tripple seven for making suggestions on products. I'll give that Breakfree product a try.
Keep your nose to the wind and the sun at your back.

Chris

sabotloader 05-25-2006 07:25 AM

RE: Problems with my M700
 
Chris H.

Here is the tool:

http://www.remingtonle.com/axx/gunparts.htm




I think this might do the same job, but I am not able to get a picture up..

http://www.brownells.com/aspx/ns/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=10626&title=BOLT+DISASSEM BLY+TOOL

Let me know if you can not track one down...

skeeter 7MM 05-25-2006 10:13 AM

RE: Problems with my M700
 
Chris I remember a few guys required a spring change in their 700's, it was covered under warranty. It maybe worth pulling the serial # and gving the big green a call??

You can also try seating your #11 caps after installing with your thumb. I found sometimes the primer/cap holder wouldback the primer or cap off while removing it..so I got in the habit of appling pressure with my thumb as a precaution.

If legal in your area you may want to consider swapping out the #11 ignition for a the cableas 209 conversion kit. Especially if you need to buy a replacement parts for the internals of the bolt assembly.

http://cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/pod/standard-pod.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/pod-link.jsp_A&_DAV=MainCatcat20712&rid=&i ndexId=cat20819&navAction=push&navCount=1& amp;parentType=index&parentId=cat20819&id= 0006644



Tahquamenon 05-25-2006 11:56 AM

RE: Problems with my M700
 
Hi Chris,

Welcome to the forum!

Great tips thus far and I'll add:

Get into the practice of detail cleaning and lubing the bolt and firing pin mechanism of the Rem700 after every shooting session.

Even if you have only fired once.

I have never had a misfire with my Rem 700ML in several thousand shots. I do replace the mainspring every 500 shots or so.

If you keep it clean and properly oiled after every shooting session, you will find the Rem 700 to be a very reliable weapon.

If you find that the firing pin is corroded, don't dispair yet. I have revived Rem700's by detail cleaning and repolishing the firing pin and assembly.

M2C

Let us know how things turn out,

Tahquamenon


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