Rust Rust Rust
04-26-2006, 03:39 PM
#11
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Vermont
Posts: 180
RE: Rust Rust Rust
I also had rust problems using Bore Butter in the bore as a rust preventitive, after cleaning, before storing. I only use Bore Butter as a lube for Maxi-Balls, and sometimes as a lube for patches for round balls. I use Goex Black Powder, and use Clenzoil, in the bore to keep rust out after cleaning, in all my ML's. No problem with fouling, so I don't agree with the "use no petroleum products" myth. IMHO some petro products will cause fouling, but not all.
04-26-2006, 04:58 PM
#13
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location:
Posts: 194
RE: Rust Rust Rust
Oil based works fine, BreakFree CLP both cleans and protects. Just swab it out good, before you shoot it, and fire a couple or three primers through it before you load it. I've done this for years, using different types of good gun oil, with no problems and no rust.
04-27-2006, 08:39 PM
#15
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location:
Posts: 206
RE: Rust Rust Rust
Bore butter may be at fault, I'm not sure but I
have a Remington model 34, that my dad left me
when he passed. I don't know how long he kept
BB in it. But he bought it in 1951. I still use BB
on it and no rust. I also have an AK-47 I
brought back from Nam. It has been stored with
BB in it for many years. And I do mean stored
for it has a working full Auto spring & lever. But
you have got to get rid of all moisture before
applying BB.
have a Remington model 34, that my dad left me
when he passed. I don't know how long he kept
BB in it. But he bought it in 1951. I still use BB
on it and no rust. I also have an AK-47 I
brought back from Nam. It has been stored with
BB in it for many years. And I do mean stored
for it has a working full Auto spring & lever. But
you have got to get rid of all moisture before
applying BB.
05-01-2006, 09:06 PM
#16
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: PA.
Posts: 5,195
RE: Rust Rust Rust
i used bore butter,oh,for 35 years. got my 2 new hawkins tc .50 cal in 1971.never saw any rust. NOW,you guys scared me out of bore butter, so i am using shaeth for storage only. i use bb or crisco for my maxi-balls or patch lube on rb.i also still swab barrel with bb at start of shooting rb.i just dont use it to store anymore.at our beretta shotgun shoots only 1 lube is used. BREAKFREE.but this is shotguns not blackpowder.i still like bore butter for pushing a tight patch and ball down barrel and will continue to use it or crisco.
05-02-2006, 09:31 AM
#17
Dominant Buck
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Ramsey , Indiana
Posts: 22,545
RE: Rust Rust Rust
ORIGINAL: Triple Se7en
No Mike... Bore Butter was the likely source of his rusty bore. In 25 years, you just have never made a mistake applying it -- while the prior user in this case did.
ORIGINAL: Mike Hill
I have been using BB for 25 years now with no problem and I have 2 guns that I haven't bothered with in a couple of years. Your post got me sceard so I just ran down and checked them and they are fine. I think your problem could come from another sorce. Mike
I have been using BB for 25 years now with no problem and I have 2 guns that I haven't bothered with in a couple of years. Your post got me sceard so I just ran down and checked them and they are fine. I think your problem could come from another sorce. Mike
05-02-2006, 11:47 AM
#18
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,922
RE: Rust Rust Rust
ORIGINAL: kevin1
Thirty years of no maintenance was what caused the rust , not the Bore Butter . I've never used anything else and my bores shine like mirrors .
Thirty years of no maintenance was what caused the rust , not the Bore Butter . I've never used anything else and my bores shine like mirrors .
The Bore Butter "natural" components/ingredients break down over the years.... either forming new moisture underneathduring decomposition (or) moisture wasn't entirely removed during the original application.
Besides, I have seen more than one name brand gun oil protect almost endlessly- using only one boreapplication - for 30 years.
Keep using it Kevin... keep-up your no-mistake applications and occasional checkups/re-applications. If not, then the rust time clock begins it's countdown to destruction.
05-02-2006, 04:30 PM
#19
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Idaho
Posts: 11,703
RE: Rust Rust Rust
Triple Se7en
It still goes back to the fact - It is not the product - it is operator. BB has worked for years for a lot of people and will continue working. Your decision not to use the product is your choice. Other people have made other choices. Not even sheath will work all the time in every instance. Take care of your equipment and it will take of you - I think some Marine said that sometime of course the inverse is probably true also.... ignore your equipment and may fail.
It still goes back to the fact - It is not the product - it is operator. BB has worked for years for a lot of people and will continue working. Your decision not to use the product is your choice. Other people have made other choices. Not even sheath will work all the time in every instance. Take care of your equipment and it will take of you - I think some Marine said that sometime of course the inverse is probably true also.... ignore your equipment and may fail.
05-03-2006, 07:00 AM
#20
Dominant Buck
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Ramsey , Indiana
Posts: 22,545
RE: Rust Rust Rust
ORIGINAL: Triple Se7en
Wrong!
The Bore Butter "natural" components/ingredients break down over the years.... either forming new moisture underneath during decomposition (or) moisture wasn't entirely removed during the original application.
Besides, I have seen more than one name brand gun oil protect almost endlessly - using only one bore application - for 30 years.
Keep using it Kevin... keep-up your no-mistake applications and occasional checkups/re-applications. If not, then the rust time clock begins it's countdown to destruction.
ORIGINAL: kevin1
Thirty years of no maintenance was what caused the rust , not the Bore Butter . I've never used anything else and my bores shine like mirrors .
Thirty years of no maintenance was what caused the rust , not the Bore Butter . I've never used anything else and my bores shine like mirrors .
The Bore Butter "natural" components/ingredients break down over the years.... either forming new moisture underneath during decomposition (or) moisture wasn't entirely removed during the original application.
Besides, I have seen more than one name brand gun oil protect almost endlessly - using only one bore application - for 30 years.
Keep using it Kevin... keep-up your no-mistake applications and occasional checkups/re-applications. If not, then the rust time clock begins it's countdown to destruction.