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cayugad 04-23-2006 02:37 PM

The Ultra Mag with various projectiles
 
Today I was determined to sight in the new scope on the White Ultra Mag .504. I did my shooting from the 25 yard line. It was in the high 40's with a very strong wind. I had some problems with the new target stand and the wind, but stuck with it.

I was shooting 70 grains of Triple Se7en 3f powder, two 1/16th fiber wads, and the 460 grain No Excuse Conical.

My first shot showed me where the scope was hitting, so I made my first adjustment. I then fired #2-#4 shot and was satisfied somewhat. I made a slight adjustment, and then fired for each corner. Shot #7 was the winds fault. Just as I was about to squeeze off, the target bowed in the wind.

Over all I was pleased with the way the scope handles on the rifle and the easy of aiming. I was shooting off 4X. At no time did I swab the barrel for all eight shots.




After knowing the scope was on.. I then wanted to see how the White Rifle did with sabots. After Sabotloader's shooting yesterday with his, I was most impressed and wanted to see for myself.



#1 .458 Hornady 300 grain HP with 100 grains Triple Se7en 2f. The shot close to the bull was me making an adjustment.

#2.452 Hornady XTP with 100 grains of Triple Se7en 2f.

#3 .458 405 grain Remington FP with 90 grains Triple Se7en 2f. I was real impressed with the group this projectile shot. My first three shots was just a hole in the target so I fired five more for effect.

#4 .451 375 grain Buffalo Bullet SSB with 90 grain Triple Se7en 2f. Again, very pleased with the way these shot.

#5.400 200 grain Thompson Center Shockwave with 110 grain Triple Se7en 2f. I was really surprised how well the White shot these light bullets. That's a four shot group and actually the one out of the main group could have been me or the wind. I was trying to time my squeeze between the wind gusts when shooting these targets.

On all the sabots, the point of aim was dead center bull...

cayugad 04-23-2006 02:46 PM

RE: The Ultra Mag with various projectiles
 
I should add, that the only time the rifle was swabbed was between changing brands of projectiles. I never swabbed the barrel when shooting any one projectile. It loaded all eight of the 405 grain as easy as the first..

I like this rifle with the #11 cap ignition. Very little fowling. And there was absolutly no crud ring in the breech of this rifle that I could feel when loading or swabbing the barrel. Why, I have no idea.

Sharp Shooter 04-23-2006 02:49 PM

RE: The Ultra Mag with various projectiles
 
So what projectile do you think you might shoot out of it? Glad you like your new rifle.

cayugad 04-23-2006 02:51 PM

RE: The Ultra Mag with various projectiles
 
This will be my conical shooter. When I want to throw big chunks of lead around. Although the way it shoots sabots, it could do it all in my book... so far.

sabotloader 04-23-2006 02:55 PM

RE: The Ultra Mag with various projectiles
 
cayugad

I am stuck doing homework today so I did not get any shooting in...

All I can say is we got a great gun! - I am becoming more impressed with the gun all the time - I really do wish I had found this a couple of months ago - might have saved me a few bucks.

I really think your shooting today validates my shooting yesterday, even when Underclocked says we were shooting those puny plastic thingy majigs... Doc White probably would agree either. But I do have to give Doc credit he built one hell of a rifle...



cayugad 04-23-2006 03:13 PM

RE: The Ultra Mag with various projectiles
 
After shooting the sabots today I have a feeling that the other inlines might not get all that much shooting in. Another thing that impresses me is how well the Warne Rings are working. Underclocked was right on the money when he recommended them to me. I have had them off and on a number of times and they come back within 1/4 - 1/2 inch of where they were.

Those 405 grain Remington FP really thump down range... I think they would make a good elk load since they are made for the 45/70 government rifle.

Underclocked 04-23-2006 03:24 PM

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You guys have actually got me considering putting plastic down a White barrel (even though that is almost a sin ;)). I'll admit to owning a few hundred sabots but they are all getting old from just sitting outthere. :)

Now, show sum class an make yersef an Undertube! :D ;)

cayugad 04-23-2006 03:30 PM

RE: The Ultra Mag with various projectiles
 
I'll have you know my duct tape space blanket scope cover worked perfect today. When I cleaned the rifle I popped the scope off, and the fowling wiped right off the duce tape as easy as could be. I wiped the rest of the scope off and then layed a thin coat of gun oil on the exposed parts and was good to go. That thing your talking about sounds like a pain. You'd have to remove that to cap the rifle right?

I was not swabbing between shots ... even on the sabots and was loading so fast I heated up the barrel. I wanted to see what effect it would have on accuracy. Boy that rifle loads sabots sweet. Two fingers to set that sabot on the charge, and not once didI have to use my short starter to get the ball rolling. Sure is not Black Diamond XR... No short starter, no shoot!!

Sharp Shooter 04-23-2006 03:41 PM

RE: The Ultra Mag with various projectiles
 
Sounds like a good rifle. I don't think I will ever own an inline. I like the tradition of the traditionals. I think it makes a hunt a little more hard and fun. An inline is too much like a modern centerfire to me. That is just my opinion. If I were to ever own an inline (NEVER WILL I) I would choose that rifle. Good luck with it.

txfireman 04-23-2006 06:11 PM

RE: The Ultra Mag with various projectiles
 
Cayugad,
Nice shootin, looks like you have a ML that will do it all. Congrats again on the new toy, or should I say tool. That's what I tell my wife when I buy a new gun, had to get a tool for work...haha.

cayugad 04-23-2006 06:24 PM

RE: The Ultra Mag with various projectiles
 

ORIGINAL: txfireman

Cayugad,
Nice shootin, looks like you have a ML that will do it all. Congrats again on the new toy, or should I say tool. That's what I tell my wife when I buy a new gun, had to get a tool for work...haha.
I just buy them and hope no one notices the addition... :D

Underclocked 04-23-2006 06:40 PM

RE: The Ultra Mag with various projectiles
 
Nah, it's just rubber that wraps around and fits over the top turret cap. Covers the side cap compleltely so it's only a bit of pain to unwrap that part and make any adjustments to the scope. Once sighted in, no problem at all. Just throw the Undertube in the washwater! Some of those others I've posted were meant to be over-the-top jokes. But that slidin' one will work if it will stay put. :D ;)

cayugad 04-23-2006 06:54 PM

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Actually it is a good idea. I am surprised it stays on there that well. Would that be considered a closed breech then with the addition of that?

Underclocked 04-23-2006 07:23 PM

RE: The Ultra Mag with various projectiles
 
No, the tube rubber just wraps around the scope - no impact on the breech.

But my other one with the rubber coated fitted-PVC action cap could be considered closed. :D:D

SteveBNy 04-23-2006 07:43 PM

RE: The Ultra Mag with various projectiles
 
Cayucad - Thanks! I have 40lbs of Bullshop conicals on the way and you got me thinking " Oh, try some plastic":D

sabotloader 04-23-2006 08:02 PM

RE: The Ultra Mag with various projectiles
 
SteveBNy

Gotta tell you - I really think these Ultra Mags will shoot most anything you put down the barrel... I know their reputation is for shooting big lead - but I will confirm they polymere realy well.



SteveBNy 04-23-2006 08:12 PM

RE: The Ultra Mag with various projectiles
 
Mike - I got the 3 petal sabots in from MMP, so the next project is to see how the Omega shoots them. No time today, but did try the fit - amazing, they push down the barrel with moderate pressure instead of having to horse them. Even the 24's were a bear to seat - just hope this shoot - got some SW and Barnes to try.

If they group, then the Omega is probably going down the road. With 5 Whites now (6th on the way) I may try setting up the Ultra Mag as the long range shooter with sabots. So little time - darn work!:D

sabotloader 04-23-2006 08:24 PM

RE: The Ultra Mag with various projectiles
 
SteveBNy

Boy! I know what you mean about WORK - sure gets in the way sometimes - I had to stay here all day tying to get all my schoolwork done.. Heck, the students think they have home work - SO DO I...

With all those Whites - I wonder about the need for the Omega myself and I only have one - gosh it is a good one tough. One of the reason I sprung for the Omega was ease of cleaning - which cleaning the barrel is but by the time you get to cleaning the trigger and block it not that much easier than my Rems - but the Ultra is really a peice of cake.

I would bet your Omega is going to pop those 3P's out just fine - it is really a good shooting gun. I have set mine up for elk season and then I normally switch to a Remington for deer - and then a side hammer for ML season. This White is really starting to capture my attention. It is in the cleaning station in the back room - everytime I go in there I picked it up and shoulder it - it is really starting to fit really well.

Right now I realize I am over confident in the Ultra Mag - I would shoot it long distance with anything I have right now.

Should have gone shooting today....


cayugad 04-23-2006 08:36 PM

RE: The Ultra Mag with various projectiles
 
:D:D:D Sabotloader... while I was shooting mine, you were in the back of my mind. My brother was up visiting, and he was drooling over my White Ultra Mag. When he saw me shooting sabots, he told me he thought that was a conical rifle until I started blasting. I told him about the luck you had and that I had to prove to myself whether this rifle would throw plastic or not.

But I am glad you had work to do. You need to spend more time at home !! :D:D


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