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lemoyne 03-16-2006 06:16 PM

cayugad ,Sabotloader
 
My Omega will shoot tight group with a wide range of loads I just set up a Boar hunt for May; how fast do you think I can push them [I am considering the 50/40 200gr and the 50'45 250gr] before they frag.
My gun will shoot tight groups wit 100 to 150 with the 50/40 and 100 to 135 with the50/45. Lee

AQUATECH 03-16-2006 06:31 PM

RE: cayugad ,Sabotloader
 
Well first off you didn't ask me, but I'll try &
answer. My Omega shoots the 300gr. Hornady
XTP's very well using the crushrib sabot. If I
were going after boar I would want something
like the XTP's or the 300gr. Barnes expanders.
Because they are like tanks around the shoulder
area. Most shots at boar are around 30-35 yds
so I'd work up one of these loads with 100gr.
powder charge. Just my opnion. But three years
ago I took a ram at High Adventure Ranch in Mo.
My buddy took a 275lb boar took three rounds
from a 30-30 and was still laying down kicking.
So I'd throw as much bullet as I could. Anyway
good luck with your pig hunt.
Danny

cayugad 03-16-2006 06:40 PM

RE: cayugad ,Sabotloader
 
lemoyne.. I think you can push them as hard as you want. Whether they will fragment I could not tell you. I saw a picture of a moose shoulder with a hold blown clear through it from a 250 grain shockwave. So it was fired with three 50 grain pellets and did not fragment. If fragmentation is a real concern, you might want to look into the bonded Shockwave bullets. They are supposed to shoot the same as the other Shockwaves and hold together better...

Good luck hog hunting. It sounds like a lot of fun.

Pittsburghunter 03-16-2006 07:17 PM

RE: cayugad ,Sabotloader
 
I don't know much about hunting hogs but I would feel better with a big ol bullet myself. Just my two cents.

Triple Se7en 03-17-2006 05:00 AM

RE: cayugad ,Sabotloader
 

ORIGINAL: lemoyne

My Omega will shoot tight group with a wide range of loads I just set up a Boar hunt for May; how fast do you think I can push them [I am considering the 50/40 200gr and the 50'45 250gr] before they frag.
My gun will shoot tight groups wit 100 to 150 with the 50/40 and 100 to 135 with the50/45. Lee
So many of us did not get an invitation to this thread. Must not trust anyone else's opinions here.

Pittsburghunter 03-17-2006 06:24 AM

RE: cayugad ,Sabotloader
 
LOL!! Someone feeling dissed?

sabotloader 03-17-2006 07:10 AM

RE: cayugad ,Sabotloader
 
lemoyne

[quote]I just set up a Boar hunt for May; how fast do you think I can push them [I am considering the 50/40 200gr and the 50'45 250gr] /quote]

There are really so many things that can affect a bullet "blowing up"... This effect is greatly enhanced by velocity, which on the other hand enhances energy & trajectory sooo.

As i think about your question my - I have a couple of concerns and/or thoughts... For me right now today the 10mm 200 grain bullet is still an un-proven bullet - it really looks good on paper and really looks good at distances beyond 150 yards... The 45-250 Bonded(cayugad's suggestion) would be be my choice of the two bullets you suggested. And if the choice of bullet were left up to me totally - I would step into a Nosler partition, to insure penetration and a bullet that would be very difficult to blow up under any conditions. The next problem for me is we do not have hogs - so I have not hunted them. I have been told they can be nightmares to get down and dead. If that is correct I really think I would go with a 300 grain Nosler Partition Protected Point for distances under 150. This is the same bullet I usefor Elk hunting.

Hope I did not cloud the qestion but I just do not have the expertise for hunting hogs...

Have a great hunt - wish we had hogs - darn it...

lemoyne 03-17-2006 08:43 AM

RE: cayugad ,Sabotloader
 
Triple Se7en,,Did not mean to leave any body out,I just wanted to be sure the people that have certain shooting things in commen with me would answer.
If I can get my hands on some of those bonded SW's I will use them, if so [have been looking without much luck so far] I will post the results. Thanks guys. Lee

DeerMe 03-17-2006 12:25 PM

RE: cayugad ,Sabotloader
 
lemoyne - Cabelas stock the shockwave (bonded/blue tip) in both the 250gr. & 300gr......I just looked at their web site and they have both in stock...Good Luck !!!

lemoyne 03-17-2006 03:25 PM

RE: cayugad ,Sabotloader
 
Thank you Deerme, if my local dealer don't come up with some this month I will order some. Lee


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