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Hello fellas, I owned a Traditions pursuit LT and sold it because it wasn't what I was looking for don't get me wrong it shot great and was easy to clean and well balanced but I want to get a little moretraditional(not as traditional as a flintlock) but something that uses a #11 cap doesn't have to bean inline. I would like a .50cal and I want something that 100yrds is a fairly long shot. You guys get my drift so I guess what I am asking is what are the recomendations for a brand/name etc.

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Since you wish to go traditional.. I would suggest a .54 caliber rifle because of the better ballistics of the roundball over a .50 caliber. If conicals and sabots are what you want to shoot a .50 caliber will work just fine.

As for the rifle, that's easy. IMO A Thompson Center Hawkins of Renegade. Go to the Auction sites and you can pick them up reasonable. I personally like the Renegades because they are a no frills type rifle, but the Hawkins are a little more understanding when shooting heavy conicals with recoil.

If the Thompson Center does not interest you then look into the Lyman Great Plains Rifle or the Lyman Trade Rifles. Both of them are well made and good shooters and will serve you well. They just do not have the customer service like Thompson Center that has spoiled most people...

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snowman69,
I echo Cayugads thoughts 110%
The T/C Renegadeis my favorite not only because of it's looks but it fits my fat cheeks better. The T/C Hawkens has a raised cheek piece and it's harder for me to sight down.
Actually when shooting theheavy conical loads in my T/C Hawkens it hurts my cheek. It's like getting punched in the side of the face.:(
The Lymans is the most authentic and they are good shooters too.

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I tell ya I really love my T/C White Mountin Carbine. They stopped making them for a while but they are back due to popular demand. Its nice and light and very pretty. Shoots #11 caps and shoots round balls and conicils great my choice in it is the Great Planes bullet. But I'm sure as long as your gun says T/C you will love it. thats my 2 cents. Mike

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Mike" I am in the process of droping my t/c flinter barrel in to a PA hunter stock,it the same as the white mountain m/l,I think it would look a little more traditional then the t/c hawkens stock@ a light lighter then when it sits in the hawkens stock
Hey snowman I know someone selling a super nice Renegade in 50 cal. wears a peep sight excellent condition.I turn on sabotloader to the t/c omega he had f/s

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i give the wmc my vote. its the best shooting sidehammer i have ever shot. a 45 cal 230gr xtp hp with 90 gr of 777.

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Hopefully, you have the money for the Austin-Halleck Mountain Rifle. It'sa percussion that's available in 1-28" or 1-66" twist for $459. Fast Production sidelock rifles don't get any better-looking than this.

https://www.dnrsports.net/miva/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=DSC&Cat egory_Code=muzzleloadersaus

If you click on one of the rifles below, you get a blow-up view of the Mountain Rifle. Click on the Percussion Select photo.

WARNING! Drooling on your keyboard may occur.:D

http://www.austinhalleck.com/AH-Mountain.html

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I am not going to click on that link!! I am NOT going to click on that link!!!

I AM NOT GOING TO CLICK ON THAT LINK!!!!;)

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Do like I do -- put a paper towel over the keyboard keys while viewing the A & H.[:@]

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that A&H is a mighty pretty gun. I have looked at them and at the http://www.rmcsports.com/catalog.htm



The only thing I dislike about them are the stocks are not real wood but laminated stock. Although the removable breech plugs and the Green Mountain Barrels are a nice feature as are the locks....

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Triple Se7en wow they are beautiful and I love the look and style much more than a new inline(don't get me wrong inline have a big advantage but its not what I am interested in)thats what I want to be hunting with the one problem is I live in Saskatchewan, Canada and getting a firearm over the boarder may be stressful, if even possible. If you know anywhere that these muzzleloaders are sold in Canada more or less in my general area of the country let me know. Another one I was looking at was the T/C renegade.

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I agree the stocks are way ugly and I find no interest in them. Can you get the rifle with a real stock?

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Those laminated stocks get slippery too.

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IMO, TC Hawkens are an excellent possibility...good quality,looks,price, very reliable and accurate...plus TC has a real,no charge lifetimewarranty second to none, regardless if original owner or not...the lowest risk purchase of a used muzzleloader that there is.

With a lot of people usingmoderate powder charges for hunting compared to a max or near max charge, I'd suggest that a .54cal might be a better choice if you expect a lot of shot opportunities at 100yds...not saying a .50 won't get it done, but if it was me I'd err on the side of the bigger caliber...the heavier 230grn ball will carry higher energy out to longer distances than a smaller 180grn ball.

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PM'd ya