Will PA ever change?
10-20-2016, 04:56 AM
#11
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Colorado
Posts: 9,557
That's the way a lot of us want it. But it has evolved a bit from its original regs. Initially you could only use "buckhorn" style open sights, flintlock ignition and patched round ball .44 cal or larger.
Today you can use FO sights or peep sight and any projectile (still .44 cal or larger).
If you want to use your in-line you can use it during the early ML season (anterless only) or during the regular firearms season.
If it were my choice I would have allowed the changes in sights but kept the projectile limited to the PRB.
Today you can use FO sights or peep sight and any projectile (still .44 cal or larger).
If you want to use your in-line you can use it during the early ML season (anterless only) or during the regular firearms season.
If it were my choice I would have allowed the changes in sights but kept the projectile limited to the PRB.
I have to laugh at Colorado.They think we have a primitive season.
10-21-2016, 05:32 AM
#12
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: MN
Posts: 1,068
I like that PA basically goes all or nothing. I wish MN did that. MN considers us primitive. By primitive you can use any powder, including smokeless, any bullet over .40 and any ignition type. The only restrictions on it are open sights. It's pretty dumb. Lets give guys 300 yard guns and expect them to trust their eyesight that can only be accurate to 50 yards. That won't wound any deer.
I wish they would do a muzzleloader early season and a muzzleloader late season. One season any muzzleloader goes, the other is only traditional.
I wish they would do a muzzleloader early season and a muzzleloader late season. One season any muzzleloader goes, the other is only traditional.
10-21-2016, 07:25 AM
#13
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Colorado
Posts: 9,557
In the case of Colorado they could keep the primitive muzzy season during the elk rut in Sept. Then have a modern muzzy season later in Oct with the rifle hunt seasons. Not at the same time, in it's own season. There's room for it.
Then the primitive season would be flintlock, real black powder, primitive sights, and a PRB. That would deserve to be in the rut season with the bow hunters. Not the way it is now.
I'd love to be on the hunt with other flintlock hunters. I'd know they were true muzzleloaders and not someone just looking for another season to hunt.
Then the primitive season would be flintlock, real black powder, primitive sights, and a PRB. That would deserve to be in the rut season with the bow hunters. Not the way it is now.
I'd love to be on the hunt with other flintlock hunters. I'd know they were true muzzleloaders and not someone just looking for another season to hunt.
10-21-2016, 08:11 AM
#14
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: River Ridge, LA (Suburb of New Orleans)
Posts: 10,917
Several of the guys in my hunting club are muzzleloaders for the sole reason of being able to hunt during the special season. They check their sights once a year, hunt the special season, and then the gun goes back in the closet until next year. They are good guys exercising their rights. I certainly can't fault them for that.
They chuckle at me for hunting with a muzzleloader during the regular gun season. I chuckle along with them. Then I chuckle at the three or four who use scope sighted crossbows during the "bow" season.
We all abide by the game laws and it's all good.
They chuckle at me for hunting with a muzzleloader during the regular gun season. I chuckle along with them. Then I chuckle at the three or four who use scope sighted crossbows during the "bow" season.
We all abide by the game laws and it's all good.
10-21-2016, 08:32 AM
#16
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 1,607
In a world where our rights are being restricted at every turn, it's hard for me to desire more legislation to limit our scope (no pun intended)
Just like Semi said-and like probably many of you, I haven't hunted with centerfires for years. I get funny looks and that's perfectly fine with em. Just because there isn't a special season, it doesn't mean you can't set limits on yourself and make it special.
Just like Semi said-and like probably many of you, I haven't hunted with centerfires for years. I get funny looks and that's perfectly fine with em. Just because there isn't a special season, it doesn't mean you can't set limits on yourself and make it special.
10-21-2016, 09:42 AM
#17
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 5,605
"Like minded" is just a nice way of saying, "My way or the highway"
10-21-2016, 12:37 PM
#18
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Colorado
Posts: 9,557
What a putz.
10-21-2016, 02:15 PM
#19
Spike
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 56
That's the way a lot of us want it. But it has evolved a bit from its original regs. Initially you could only use "buckhorn" style open sights, flintlock ignition and patched round ball .44 cal or larger.
Today you can use FO sights or peep sight and any projectile (still .44 cal or larger).
If you want to use your in-line you can use it during the early ML season (anterless only) or during the regular firearms season.
If it were my choice I would have allowed the changes in sights but kept the projectile limited to the PRB.
Today you can use FO sights or peep sight and any projectile (still .44 cal or larger).
If you want to use your in-line you can use it during the early ML season (anterless only) or during the regular firearms season.
If it were my choice I would have allowed the changes in sights but kept the projectile limited to the PRB.
From what's described above, it doesn't sound unreadable to me - there are plenty opportunities to use an in-line.
One has to wonder; if In-lines keep advancing more and more to CF capabilities (some already are) - will more states go back to flint & perc only?
10-22-2016, 08:26 AM
#20
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 5,605
will more states go back to flint & perc only?
Our ML season is after firearms but it now includes centerfire pistols. Our bow season now includes crossbows and the archers are having a fit over it. Ohhhhh poor them, now they have to share their season with people who are not "like minded".
The hypocrisy is deafening as they hunt with their $1000+ compounds bows, tree climber stands, GPS, game cams and high tech thermal gear.
I don't believe for a second that primitive regs in many states have anything to do with hunting "old school". Its just a way to sell another tag and increase revenue but limit the success rate so they can boast about game numbers in their state.