Conical Help
 

I need some help here. I had planned to shoot a 310gr Buffalo Ballet for antelope. I am not sure if it will do for Elk, and Large muleys in the 200's for weight. Could I use a 460gr Buffalo Bullet on Elk and deer and a 310gr ballet on antelope keeping the sight the same? Do you think the 310gr Ballet is enough for large deer and elk? I would like to use a 535gr No Excuses on elk. Is it too much for the large muleys though? Here are the mainconicals I would like to pick from. Please tell me what ones are good for what and too much for the other. I plan to hunt antelope, elk, and mule deer. I know the 535gr No excuses would be great for elk. What would that do for the muleys? I might just do archery antelope. Still, all the help is needed. Thanks ALOT!!!

[ul][*]310gr Buffalo Ballet[*]460gr Buffalo Bullet[*]535gr No Excuses concal.[/ul]

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Before you get too worried about which one to use, you really need to see which one will shoot the best out of your rifle. I suggest getting a couple boxes of them and a good supply of powder and spending a couple days on the range.

When I work up a bullet, I seldom take a second unknown bullet to the range with me. I like to have an unknown and one that I am sure of with its accuracy. It helps sooth my hurt feelings when I can't make the unknown one shoot well.... :D

Good luck with your rifle.

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I am talking for if these all shoot well. For now I am wanting to know if the 535gr No Excuses will be too much for muleys in the 200's for weight.

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I think the 535 grain No Excuse will put them down for sure. Whether it would be too much, I never had the pleasure of shooting mule deer yet... Those are some big deer, sounds like a lot of fun to hunt...

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For the price, quantity, weight, and quality I think I am going to go with the 535gr No excuses if it shoots good. That would work great for muleys and elk. What do those of you who shootit, shoot it at? What are your results?

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The 460 grain would certainly be plenty big for elk and mule deer. Not sure if I would go any larger. What about the no excuses 460 grain?

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I took elk with a 54 cal Hawken that use a 230gr round ball and 130gr FF black powder around 40 yrs ago I dought they are much tougher now.
The important things are know your gun and pick the right spot to shoot at and hit it.I hit both of mine in the ribs at the back edge of the shoulder and about half way between the bottem of the chest and the top of the shoulder.
Try them all with 100gr up use the one you can hit a coffee cup at 100yd with all the time. Lee

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Sharp shooter asked:

Could I use a 460gr Buffalo Bullet on Elk and deer and a 310gr ballet on antelope keeping the sight the same?

Yes, but each will have different ballistics. If your muzzle-velocities are the same (which requires different charges for each projectile), then there will be little difference until you get further out. You may be surprised to hear that, given the same initial muzzle velocity, the 460 will out perform the 310 having a zero more distant (owing to its better ballistics). In my way of thinking, this is the best way to have the same sighting for two different loads. Even so, the 460 will perform better for all your prey, in distance, trajectory, and KE at range. The only benefits of the 310 being less powder use andless recoil.

You have the option of using more powder with the 310. If you do, you will find that your zero with the 310 is more distant than with the 460 and that you are going to be higher with this round than line of sight at distances that the 460 is dropping sharply. This is a very difficult way to shoot a weapon.

Trying not to beat a dead horse, you may consider just using the 460 or 535. In the end, I think you will be more satisfied, that is if, you wish to keep your sights in one place all season.

Do you think the 310gr Ballet is enough for large deer and elk? I would like to use a 535gr No Excuses on elk. Is it too much for the large muleys though?

If I owned a .54 like you. I would hope that the 535 shot well in it. That is what I would use for elk and anything else. The exception would be if I were trying to develop a load which would give me greater range. In which case, I would be wanting alighter bullet with a ballistics coefficient approaching or exceeding that of the 535. Something like a precision semi-spitzer or spitzer point.

My 2 cents.

Happy Hunting, Phil

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No excuses only has the 535gr for 54cal. I only plan to shoot 100yds or less. The 535grshould do good at 100yds. I like it because it has ALOT of energy. You could take any game down in North America with the 535gr No Excuses. I might try it. I hope it shoots well out of my rifle.

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I really wouldn't worry about the conicle being too big. I use the 460 gr. 50 cal. on whitetails. That is probably almost 300 more grains of lead than I need, but I like it because I get exceptional accuracy with the No Excuses bullet. Plus, I am ready for aColoradoElkTrip wheneverthe oppurtunity finally comes.I have a round ball barrel if I want to shoot lighter loads.
I have shot two deer with the 460 gr. bullet in the past, and I am trying to fill my last tag with a round ball this week. I could not get a clear shot on a deer Saturday.

C. Davis