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alleyyooper 12-26-2005 02:41 PM

Peep site
 
I would like to put a peep sight on my TC Hawkins 50.
Which model of either Marble or Lyman should I look for to simplfi mounting.

:) Al

cayugad 12-26-2005 03:22 PM

RE: Peep site
 
On my Thompson Center I mounted a Thompson Center Peep sight and I really do like it. I have no experience with the ones you mentioned...

bluemtchuck 12-26-2005 07:13 PM

RE: Peep site
 
I have a Hawken and a Senaca, both have TC peepsites. I've had them on for almost 30 years and wouldn't put anything else on, I really like them.The older rifles tang was drilled and tapped for these sites I believe that TC dosen't do this anymore, you have to have it done.

lonewolf5347 12-26-2005 07:27 PM

RE: Peep site
 
I have the t/c hunter peep on my 50 cal. flinter what a difference in the group
I also re=drilled the peep hole to 1/64 and with a front fiber optic sight is the way to fly.I may also install a front lyman globe on the hawkens.
I also had a peep on my new englander which I just sold,my Renegade flinter has stock sight if a hunter peep comes my way I am going to mount it on the Renegade also.

sproulman 12-26-2005 07:52 PM

RE: Peep site
 
here in pa. you cant use a peep sight for late season hunting,so, RMC SPORTS made a V-PEEP SIGHT which is legal.item no. is ml-230-3 for tc hawkins .their site is www.rmcsports.com. look up v-peep sights.they are best i have ever had on my hawkens.you can change front bead color to red or green.i like front sight cause it is real small. complete set is 36 dollars ,well worth it.i love mine.

eldeguello 12-28-2005 07:03 AM

RE: Peep site
 

ORIGINAL: sproulman

here in pa. you cant use a peep sight for hunting,so, RMC SPORTS made a V-PEEP SIGHT which is legal.item no. is ml-230-3 for tc hawkins .their site is www.rmcsports.com. look up v-peep sights.they are best i have ever had on my hawkens.you can change front bead color to red or green.i like front sight cause it is real small. complete set is 36 dollars ,well worth it.i love mine.
You can't use an aperture sight during the LATE FLINTLOCK SEASON, but you sure can during the regular early ML season in OCT, and of course, during the regular firearms seasons as well. In fact, you can even use a scope during thoseseasons.

Longbow Bowhunter 12-28-2005 08:06 AM

RE: Peep site
 
Alleyyooper, I have a brand new TC hunting peep Number 7194 for TC Hawkin, Renagade new in the package. send me an e-mail with you address and I will send it to you.:D

[email protected]

alleyyooper 01-06-2006 05:30 PM

RE: Peep site
 
:)Longbow bowhunter I recieved the peep sight in the mail this PM. Looking forward to mounting it then shooting. I have a feeling that it will improve MY shooting since it is a better sight for us with older eyes.
Thank ever so much, Don't know how I will ever repay you.

:) Al

ENCOREMAN 01-06-2006 06:16 PM

RE: Peep site
 
lonewolf5347,
Are you sure about drilling the peep hole to 1/64th's...that's about.016"
That's an awfully small hole to see through[:o]
I drill most of my peeps sights outto at least3/32 (.093")and most even larger 5/32" (.156) depending on the use.

Longbow Bowhunter,
That was really nice of you to send alleyyooper a T/C peep

alleyyooper,
Keep us posted on your results using your new peep. I likea green fiber optic front sight when using a peep. The front globe sightswork nice too.
Years ago I worked in a shop that had a CO2 cuttinglaser and I cut out a bunch of different inserts for the globe sight. I had a lot of fun trying them out.

Campo 01-06-2006 07:26 PM

RE: Peep site
 
Are the T/C peep sights your all speaking of the tang peep in a hunting style? I was under the impression from a previous post that they werent the greatest for hunting, I didnt know you could drill them out.
Just a bit confused, but props to you Al for landing a freebie:)
Let us know how it works out!

ENCOREMAN 01-06-2006 07:55 PM

RE: Peep site
 
Campo,
Most of my peeps are the T/C Hunting style. "Yes" you can drill these out and they work great for hunting! If there's not a scope on my rifle it has a peep sight instead.
For hunting purposes you need to drill them out, so you can see through them better in low light situations. Don't worry about loosing accuracy, your eye will automatically center the front sight in the peep.
In really low light situations you can remove the rear peep and use the ghost ring (threaded hole that held the peep). The ghost ring works great in these conditions and I still like it better than iron sights.
I use to shoot acompound bow withpeep and fiber optic pins. Here in Illinois during the archery season we areallowed to shoot 1/2hr. before sunriseto 1/2hr. after sunset. Using a peep and fiber optic sights I was able to see the sights just fine. I've taken deer right up to the last few minutes of legal shooting time.
Scopes are my 1st choice, but I'll take a good peep and fiber optic sightwhen scopes aren't allowed.



TC209x50 01-06-2006 08:29 PM

RE: Peep site
 
Okay, I was unaware that you could drill your 7194 peep out. That would really make it attractive for me to put mine back on the Renegade and give it a try again for hunting. What is the best for hunting 1/64th or 3/32nd? Where do you pick up the ghost ring at? Thanks, another reason to go and shoot my ML.

ENCOREMAN 01-07-2006 09:02 AM

RE: Peep site
 
TC209X50,
It's been awhile since I've drilled one out. I'm not sure exactly what dia. they are to start with.The peep that I'll be using nextweekhas been drilled out to 3/32" (.093)Lets say your peeps hole is 1/32" (.032) I'd drill it out to .050take it outside late in the eve. and look into the dark shadows. Can you see well enough now to shoot a deer? If not take the peep off and drill it out a little larger.The nice thing about this is that you don't have to shoot the gun to try it out.
The ghost ring is the tappedhole on thepost that holds the peep in place. This tapped hole is approx. .200" in dia. so you can imagine the hole that you can look through on those really dark early mornings/late evenings.
Use a drill press if you can to drill your peep out. You'll also need vice grip fingers to hold the peep as you drill to keep it from spinning on you.Do not plunge the drill into the peep...take iteasy and let the drill do it's job.
If you don't feel comfortable doing this take it to someone who can help you!



ENCOREMAN 01-07-2006 09:18 AM

RE: Peep site
 
ghost ring


ENCOREMAN 01-07-2006 09:18 AM

RE: Peep site
 
peep sight w/.093" hole


sproulman 01-07-2006 11:13 AM

RE: Peep site
 
good info. question,i bought the V-PEEP sight from RMC SPORTS. he claims that it is great for blurry eyes and darkness.the top of the sight is cut like v. on my rifles all my peeps mount where you have yours, back behind . on the V-PEEP it goes in place of the original sight location which is half way up the barrel. i am wondering if my sight,V-PEEP would work better if it was back where you have your peep located?

alleyyooper 01-07-2006 01:14 PM

RE: Peep site
 
First off I think your V peep would work a bit better if moved back on the tang. It would give you a longer sight plane for one thing.

:)Got the new peep sight out of the vacum pack to see where I wanted it placed on the tang. I must have one of those older Hawkins some one told about as I had a set type screw about half way between the tang screws so the peep lined right up with the rear tang screw and where the set type screw was. WA LA it is on and looks nice on there. I do need to take a trip out the the shop for a drift pin to remove the rear leaf so I can get the front screw out. Can't see the front sight as it is.
Crappy misty freezing rain here today so I am not shooting today DRAT.
My friend has a lyman on a Win. 94 that has an apeture as big as the ghost ring on this T/C peep. Works fine for him.

:) Al

liquidorange 01-08-2006 12:12 PM

RE: Peep site
 
i had the hunter style peep on my new englander. i took it off after bear hunting in maine with it. you cant see well with it in dark timber as the sun is setting . i never noticed any better accuracy than the regular site. some hunters love the peep site i didnt like it. probably better for deer hunting and longer shots.i still have it come to think of it . time for the classifieds

ENCOREMAN 01-08-2006 06:24 PM

RE: Peep site
 
liquidorange,
"yes" I can imagine that l@@king through a peep sightin dark timber on a black bear would be difficult. Did you have the peep drilled out and/or did you try taking it off and use the ghost ring? Havinga fiber optic front sight on that New Englander might have helped youtoo. Bowhunters use this same setup on their bowsall the time bear hunting.

TC209x50 01-09-2006 11:37 AM

RE: Peep site
 
Encoreman,Thanks a bunch for the info., a picture is worth a 1000 words. I'm going to try drilling mine out. First starting off small then going up. So when it's refered to using the ghost ring you simply just take the peep off, correct? Is it better to use the globe front style or can you use just the standard front bead just fine? If I'm understanding this correct I think it's intended to use the factor front ramp. The renegade that I'll be using this on has the front bead. Thanks a lot you guys are a big help.

lonewolf5347 01-09-2006 03:25 PM

RE: Peep site
 
liquidorange
I sent you a PM


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