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bdbwtie101 10-24-2005 07:03 PM

which muzzleloader?
 
I have never muzzleloaded before and want to start this year, since it is a whole season that i am missing out on. I dont know much about muzzleloading or any of the trend, I want to buy a new muzzleloader, thinking about a Knight or thompson. I dont wanna break the bank or anything but i dont wanna buy something that wont last or gonna wish that i had gone better. Any advice on any other the better guns or what to look for in a new gun. I know that most nowadays come with 209 primer and such, which i dont know much about, if you could haelp out in this area that would be great. Thanks


newguy23 10-24-2005 07:17 PM

RE: which muzzleloader?
 
Thompson Center Omega. Great design, great shooting rifle, many different styles/options to fit any price range ($250 - $600). To be honest you can't really go wrong with a Knight or a TC... I would see which one you like... I like the Omega falling breech type design... On some of the Knight rifles there is a plug you need to use with the primer which to me adds an unnecessary step.

700bdl870exp 10-24-2005 08:44 PM

RE: which muzzleloader?
 
Omega all the way. got one a few years ago and love it. dont bother with the knight the disc jacket thing is a pain in the ace. omega is real easy to clean and shoot great.

handloader1 10-24-2005 11:14 PM

RE: which muzzleloader?
 
T/C Encore .50x209 Magnum would be my choice. Good luck.

lovethebigguns 10-25-2005 04:31 AM

RE: which muzzleloader?
 
T/C Encore 209X50 All the way!
I agree with the boys, T/C over Knight anyday.

Good Luck!

Superpig 10-25-2005 09:11 AM

RE: which muzzleloader?
 
First chech your local hunting regulations to see what type of muzzleloader is legal in your area. In my state pretty much anything goes. I do however travel out of state and the regulations require percussion ignition and an open breech. For this reason I chose the Knight Bighorn. I bought this gun about 3 years ago and it has served me well. Shooting a 250 gr. Hornady SST over 2 777 pellets gives me consistent 1.5" groups at 100 yards. Knight has made some changes and the rifle I have is now the Wolverine 209. The newest Bighorn's have 26" barrels. Mine has the 22" barrel. If you choose the Bighorn it comes with musket cap ignition and 209 primer ignition. A scope is also easily mounted on the gun. The only thing is buy a scope cover so the blow back from the nipple doesn't discolor your scope.

Flatland Hunter 10-25-2005 01:43 PM

RE: which muzzleloader?
 
Listen to the pig... check state regs and that will give some direction. The full plastic jackets are not that big a deal when hunting. In fact I think it is even easier to handle in the field then fumbling with a capper or the primer itself. Drop it in and cycle the bolt, primed! It is a pain when shooting paper though.

I have Whites and a Knight Elite, love all three! TC and Knight are both excellent choices!!

bdbwtie101 10-25-2005 05:11 PM

RE: which muzzleloader?
 
thanks for all the info, i dont really know what about all the percussion caps and primers and pellets and such. i am going to a dealer tommorrow to see it visualy and see what the budget allows lol. Sounds to me like im gonna with a thompson, but we'll see

Encore50 10-25-2005 11:04 PM

RE: which muzzleloader?
 
You will definitely be happy with an Encore or Omega. Both are excellant choices but be sure you check someother manufacturers too. You can compare the craftsmanship and see that T/C makes a great product.

Fl Still Hunter 10-26-2005 03:56 AM

RE: which muzzleloader?
 
TC Omega 28 inch BBL. 100 yard one inch accuracy out of the box. 2 to 2 1/2 inch 200 yard accuracy, no problem. With the right load. 3.5 incheshi at 100 yardsand 7.5 inches low at 200 yards. Sweet !!!!Two thumbs up !!!

doughboysigep 10-26-2005 05:52 AM

RE: which muzzleloader?
 
I would definitely go with a breech action model (any brand probably ok). They are easy to use, break down, clean, etc. I would also suggest, if just starting ou, to go with a less expensive gun. I have a Rossi and it is great (cost me $180.00). NEF and H&R make basically the same gun for about the same price. The others mentioned above are greta guns, I'm sure, but make sure you stay in your budget and save some money for bulets and pellets.

deercrazy1 10-26-2005 07:41 AM

RE: which muzzleloader?
 
Go with the omega. I just got one with the laminate thumbhole stock and the fluted barrel. I couldn't be happier with my decision.

IL Hunter 10-26-2005 09:33 AM

RE: which muzzleloader?
 
I know I'll be getting the gun mentioned directly above when I can afford one. I don't know anyone with an omega who hasn't liked it.

Flatland Hunter 10-26-2005 09:37 AM

RE: which muzzleloader?
 
Moocho denairo!! $600 for that rig... I would love to have that as well. My DISC Elite shoots just as well though!

deercrazy1 10-26-2005 10:45 AM

RE: which muzzleloader?
 
I searched around the internet and found it for $539 it included shipping. Through my experience you might as well wait until you have the funds to purchase the gun you want. Otherwise you will not be satisfied with it.

bdbwtie101 10-27-2005 05:49 PM

RE: which muzzleloader?
 
alright so today i went out and handled some guns. was very impressed with the tompson encores and omegas. The encore is way pricey for me right now, but the omega was like $380, granted it was black on black, which isnt my first choice. They didn't have a NEF but the did have a Rossi and i wasnt that impressed with it. I didnt get to handle a Knight so those of you who have compared what is your opinions b/t the omega and knight persay the revolution or same level gun. These guns arent cheap still but i dont wanna have to do this all over in a few years. just wanna get a gone im gonna be happy with for a long time. thanks

DannyD 10-27-2005 07:20 PM

RE: which muzzleloader?
 
bdbwtie101,
I just picked up the T/C Omega Z5 for $269 after doing some research and from advice on this forum. It appears to be a good value.
The gun only comes in black on black but I assume that you can get a different stock on it down the road if you want (am I right guys?)
Anyway, I just got the gun and have only had 2 shooting sessions with it. It is my first ML so I really had nothing to compare it to. I can tell you though that it was a joy to shoot and very easy to clean between shots and when i cleaned it for storing.


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