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I have been shooting my omega with 150 grains lately, getting sighted so I can shoot longer distances and such. Going from 100 to 150 grainshas been a big change for me in recoil andI am haveing a hard time holding the gunsteadyenough for a good squeezing the trigger while holding the gun tight enough so thatthe scope don't smack me in the face like it has already and drew blood.

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[:@] OUCH!! I hate that. I did that a few weeks ago when shooting large loads out of the Black Diamond XR. Kind of takes you by surprise. I always have to make sure when shooting stout loads to be sure and snug the butt of the stock good and tight into the shoulder. Also a good reason for a scope with good eye relief...

Better luck next time. By the way, what kind of accuracy did you get shooting the large loads??

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You should really ask yourself how far you need to shoot... You should be able to accurately shoot out to 200 yards with 120 or 130 grains. Also if by chance you are using 777 it is aproximatley 10% stronger than the competition. Also if you develop bad habits you will dramatically reduce you accuracy at any distance. Just a thought... Don't shoot something you are uncomfortable with.

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I bought some 250grn shockwaves and was sighting for two inches high at 100yds so I could go 200 yds for southern minnesota whitetail. I acheived my 2 inches high but havent gone out to 200 yet. I am shooting the 50 grn pyro pellets and will maybe try the 5 pellets at 30grn a piece and maybe some 777 as well.

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Patch, at the risk of offending you. Do you know the proper eye relief on your scope and is it set too YOU? The difference between a custom fit at a quality gunshop/proshop vs buying from Wallyworld, BPS, clueless gunshop or doing it yourself if you aren't familiar with it is just what you described. Most scopes on the market have an eye relief that is in the 3"-4" range and that is plenty and if mounted properly (and correctly held and shot) you shouldn't have any problems, much less draw blood!

I have sold and setup thousands of guns/scopes over the years and the way I properly set the eye relief is to only snug the rings enough to hold the scope from loosely moving, yet still be loose enough to permit moving the scope while a customer is holding the gun too their shoulder and looking through the scope. I then ask the customer to close their eyes and "mount the gun" that is bring it up too a comfortable and correct position before they ever open their eyes. Unless they have just never shot a scoped gun before, most everyone will have a preferred position of placement. With their eyes closed this position will naturally be fit. Then once they open their eyes I move the scope too them, I DONT let them move their head too the scope, that defeats the purpose and sets them up for just your experience.

If you hunt primarily in cold climates (like in MN as you spoke) and will have alot of heavy clothes on then I will actually ask the customer to take a heavy coat from the rack and try it on while I set the eye relief on their rig. It's not a huge difference but typically .5"-1" is added too an eye relief when the layers are piled on. Something to consider.

And also DO make sure that the butt of the gun is firmly placed into your shoulder. Dont pull it hard or tense up on it as that will affect accuracy, just make sure the gun is completely against your shoulder, this will make your shooting steadier and will actually decrease the guns reward travel upon firing.

Good luck,
RA

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Thankyou for not trying to offend as I am basically a beginner to this as I am primarily a bowhunter.I have never heard of custom fitting a scope to a person that is very interesting and i believe you are right i will look into this as I installed the scope myself.

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Well, I am a huge advocate of trying new things. But thats to a point. And you definately crossed it. I know beginning, I would have never trying those huge loads. I find my 150gr loads shoot less recoil than my TC Hawken with a heavy concial and hard stock design. I suggest a quality recoil pad. And a decent scope with 4" of eye relief or more.

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I wouldn't go from 100 to 150. Try 120 or 130 first, see how that performs. 150 is almost overkill.

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I agree with the suggestions of checking to ensure your scope is set up properly and you are taking advantage of the Min ER afforded, keep within good technical form, don't ever pull that trigger if you aren't comfortable b/c it willusually becomesa wasted effort & look at replacing the stock recoil pad with the likes of a Sims or Pachymar Decel.

I think your on the right track trying to work up or find a happy medium in terms of powder charge/recoil. However if you find your accuracy still suffers from your 2x50's load, then learn to use it at the distances you intend to shoot. IMHO pick accuracy over trajectory, as anoticablylarger group at 100 on the range will lead to only a hope n' prayer in the field at 200! Your current load is more than plenty to harvest a deer in the 150 range and possibly 200 if your proficent with using it.

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What is the make & model of your scope?