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drgildy 09-03-2005 04:00 PM

American Pioneer BP Substitute
 
Has anyone tried the American Pioneer powder that Jim Shockey is now advertising? If it is true that it is noncorrosive and you can shoot multiple times without cleaning or swabbing it would really be handy when you are on the range.

cayugad 09-03-2005 04:07 PM

RE: American Pioneer BP Substitute
 

Has anyone tried the American Pioneer powder that Jim Shockey is now advertising? If it is true that it is noncorrosive and you can shoot multiple times without cleaning or swabbing it would really be handy when you are on the range.
I have not tried it but I would not trust their claim of noncorrosive. Most any powder will corrodeyour barrelover time. I have read a few posts from people who have shot it, and they claim that there was no fowling or crud ring in the breech, but there is a build up of fowling that formed near the muzzle. Why that would happen I have no idea. I guess all a person can do is to get some and shoot it, then see what they think.

I have shot the new Pinnacle powder and really like that. Just make sure any powder that is made by American Pioneer Powder, you purchase in the 3f grade. Their 2f grade is really course.

eldeguello 09-03-2005 05:12 PM

RE: American Pioneer BP Substitute
 
[quote]ORIGINAL: cayugad


Has anyone tried the American Pioneer powder that Jim Shockey is now advertising? If it is true that it is noncorrosive and you can shoot multiple times without cleaning or swabbing it would really be handy when you are on the range.
American Pioneer powder = Pinnacle = Clean Shot (previous name of same stuff!!)

cayugad 09-03-2005 06:23 PM

RE: American Pioneer BP Substitute
 
eldeguello .. I understand the American Pioneer Powder makes Pinnacle and Shockey Gold but I do not think they are the same thing. American Pioneer Powder and Clean Shot were gray in color and Pinnacle is jet black. Granted, that could be a matter of dye but I think they might run into some consumer protection laws or copyright lawsif they were selling the exact same stuff under different names... Then again, maybe they are. I personally do not think so. I want to get some more Pinnacle and some APP and test them side by side. I would also want to get some Black Mag3 but I know that will never happen unless the place I get my next powder order from stocks BM3.


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