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bob roberts 08-02-2005 08:33 PM

RE: Powerbelt Accuracy & Load Question
 
I use the 348gr PBs w/90grs of Clean Shot. Have never used the ML for deer, but have taken several elk with this combo. Since my ML doesn't have a scope (not allowed in Colorado on MLs), I never shoot further than 100yds. Don't remember what the group sizes were, but then all the elk I have killed were within 50 yards. Lucky I guess!

A.D.D. BOY 08-02-2005 11:46 PM

RE: Powerbelt Accuracy & Load Question
 

with the 295 grain powerbelts with a one 50 grain pyrodex pellet.
Would that have enough energy to kill a deer?
What about elk?

bigcountry 08-03-2005 06:16 AM

RE: Powerbelt Accuracy & Load Question
 
I got the powerbelts shooting accurately with a low power load as HDW.But mine was 80-85gr of pyrodex. But then started asking myself. Why limit myself to a projectile that is not dynamic that can't handle 100 or 130gr loads? I moved on to barnes Expanders, XTP's. Still working with SST's and PRbullets.

All seem to handle a wide variety of loads without the hassle of keeping my load down.

heinz57 08-05-2005 02:29 PM

RE: Powerbelt Accuracy & Load Question
 
i alway's used 300 gr.TRADITION with 100 gr of T7 .bull's eye at 100 yards ..but found that bullet did not mushroom well on DEER ..so i switched to 295 gr POWER BELT accuracy was just plain horrible and they grouped 6" lower than the TRADITION ...i now use 260 gr DEAD CENTER whith the nylon tip .resulting in better accuracy and nice mushroom p.s. the DEER hate them ..oh yes i shoot a REMINGTON ..PRIMER 209:eek:

HighDesertWolf 08-07-2005 01:36 AM

RE: Powerbelt Accuracy & Load Question
 

ORIGINAL: A.D.D. BOY


with the 295 grain powerbelts with a one 50 grain pyrodex pellet.
Would that have enough energy to kill a deer?
What about elk?

I never shot that load through my chronograph, but im guessing its probably pushing somewhere between 900 and 1200 fps. it might be enough to take a deer at short ranges say around 50 yards but that idea isbased ona deera friendkilled with 45 acp handload pushing a 185 grain barnes XPB from a glock 21 at 1,026 fps.

as for elk no way that load is way too wimpy to get enough penetration on a elk.

heinz57 08-07-2005 05:10 AM

RE: Powerbelt Accuracy & Load Question
 
100gr. of T7 is a standard load for big game in north america ..what is really important is to get the right bullet for your muzzel loader .

Finaddict 08-07-2005 06:35 AM

RE: Powerbelt Accuracy & Load Question
 

just started hunting with a muzzleloader last year. I recieved a .50 cal CVA Kodiak Magnum as a birthday present from my girlfriend. 295 grain Powerbelt & 777 50 grain pellets were also part of the gift. With open sights I was confident and accurate out to 60 yards with 100grains. I put a scope on the gun this past week. I am dead on at 60 yards, but 100 yards is all over the place (no consistency). I was thinking of either dropping the bullet weight down to 245 grain, increasing the powder to 130 grains or both. I am still a newbie in this sport and could use any advice you can give for this type of gun and setup. Thanks!
Hey Kathwacckkk I also own a .50 cal CVA Kodiak Magnum and found it shoots the 295 Powerbelt AEROTIP's with 100 gr. Pyrodex RS loose powder with great accuracy. I use the loose powder because where I live you can only use loose powder and open sights for muzzleloading hunts. Everything you've been told is excellent advice except for increasing your powder charge to 120 to 130 gr. The manual says "No more than 100 gr. max." NEVER EXCEED THE MAXIMUM POWDER CHARGE FOR YOUR RIFLE.

This year I'm working on using the 348 gr. Powerbelt Aerotip with 100 gr. Pyrodex RS and it wasn't as accurate. That being said I found last time I went to the range it has more to do with the fiber optic sights and the fact that I'm not lining them up as well as I should. I think I'm going to try the Williams Peep Sight from Cabelas for the rear and leave the fiber optic on the front and see if that helps my accuracy.

The Kodiak is a good rifle. Just keep at it and spend a lot of time at the range. Just make sure you line up those fiber optic sights exactly the same every time and you should be fine. Good luck. ;)

grapeshot 08-11-2005 10:38 AM

RE: Powerbelt Accuracy & Load Question
 
I bought several blister packs of powerbelts and I noticed they were all
slightly out of round! Accuracy, for some reason wasn't bad out of my
cva hunterbolt. Good enough for hunting at reasonable distances, but
not the bullet for serious target work. Over powering them don't work either. They sometimes shatter on impact in sand. Slowing them down gave consistent expansion in sand. Keyword, sand. Sand and flesh are
two very different things! We'll see what hapens when I try them this fall.

cayugad 08-11-2005 10:53 AM

RE: Powerbelt Accuracy & Load Question
 

ORIGINAL: A.D.D. BOY

Would that have enough energy to kill a deer?
What about elk?
Personally I would guess it would kill a deer under the right circumstances. That being, distance, shot placement, etc. I would rather see someone kick that load up around 80 grains or more, just for the sake of penetration and massive damage a faster projectile will cause.

On the elk part of the question, I never hunted elk with a muzzleloader but there is no way I would attempt such a thing with the load listed. Elk need a lot of penetration. I fear all that would do is cause a lot of wounded elk or elk that ran off and were never found.


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