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SpyroAndes 03-09-2005 01:58 PM

RE: Resident vs. Nonresident
 

ORIGINAL: RandyA

It's as little as 160 acres not 2000.


So if the bill is defeated then who is being discriminated against? Residents! Then maybe we should all move to Kalifornia and we can all come hunt for the same price with the same chance of drawing. COOL! Let's all move!

I will place an ad in the paper today asking hunters to support the bill and to write our elected officals telling them so.
Wow what a gap in logic...

If we stop discriminating against 1 group, we are automatically discriminating against the other?

Your logic is a little faulty there, cheif.

It is called taking away YOUR HUNTING HANDOUT and making everyone EQUAL!

I guess when they gave Black people the right to vote, it was discriminatory against people that already had the right to vote?

kshunter 03-09-2005 03:22 PM

RE: Resident vs. Nonresident
 
I'm done spending 30 min. to respond to post that makes no sense, and reword a common concept which Spyro doesn't want to understand.

Like I said before


Greed, Greed, Greed. Yes I can see where you like Taulmans idea, it benefits you. It's too bad you're thinking about only yourself...
It benefits you, so go for it! It's easy to see in your post, and no matter what is said, that's how you'll think. You're set on the way you feel, regardless of what could be said. I don't have the time to post here anymore for an individual that doesn't understand the common concepts of not only Taulman but the hunting community as a whole.


Like I said before, your statements are too irrational sparatic to make logical sense.

Come 'on, I feel like I'm having a debate with a kid.
Yes, and it's now old. Honestly, I think my 2nd grade nefew could understand the concept without any problem, and look at this topic, 11 pages. Almost funny, but sad.

Later, fellas

SpyroAndes 03-09-2005 04:03 PM

RE: Resident vs. Nonresident
 
KS,

I understand the issue.

The issue is the resident hunter has gotten used to having a strangle hold on next to free hunting opportunities at the expense of the nonresident and are throwing a tantrum at the thought of giving some of it up.

The States that have been exploiting the nonresident were defeated in court and are now throwing a tantrum as well and trying to circumvent the ruling.

I understand the issue.

SA

PS. Why do residents and non-residents of Wyoming pay the exact same fee to fish Yellostone Park but nonresidents of Wyoming have to pay grossly over inflated fees to hunt other federal lands in Wyoming? Is fish not wildlife? Wouldn't the fish in the park belong to the people of Wyoming?

RandyA 03-09-2005 05:29 PM

RE: Resident vs. Nonresident
 
Spyro, I guess a resident has no priority in hunting his or her home state then? I simply don't and won't agree with your logic. Just because it is federal land, and very little game in this state spends the entire year, just on federal land, we have no preference. What if the elk leave federal land, spend months on private, does the private land owner get tags? Or all of the tags becuase the elk are on his land,then return to federal land in the spring, now they are federal elk?

Nah! State's elk, states wildlife, we get cheaper tags because it is our state and we live here, 365 days a year, supporting all facits of the state. You and George are not going to change it. Try and try, then you can cry and cry!

$490 is not out of line for a once a year chance to hunt elk. I spend my wages, nearly 100% here all year. Then get a tag for $55, versus $490 to some one who comes and drops $1000, once a year. It's not broken why do you kalifornians want to change everything?

justhuntitall 03-09-2005 06:05 PM

RE: Resident vs. Nonresident
 
I was going to stay out of this but I have to put in my 2 cents. I have been hunting WY and CO for ten years now and I have to say I think the tag prices are a little out of hand and the have to have a guide thing in WY or any state is total bull$hit !

And as you can see Iam not from the west but I do not think that I should be able to hunt your state where you grew up learned to hunt from your father or other signifigant person that gave you the knowledge and the love for the land that you grew up on.But after that there should be an alotment of tags for the NR.

And be carefull you should all care about what tags prices get to the more the NR prices go up the more the states want to sell to NR then your own!!

Wolf killer 03-09-2005 08:24 PM

RE: Resident vs. Nonresident
 

Why do residents and non-residents of Wyoming pay the exact same fee to fish Yellostone Park but nonresidents of Wyoming have to pay grossly over inflated fees to hunt other federal lands in Wyoming? Is fish not wildlife? Wouldn't the fish in the park belong to the people of Wyoming?
SpyroAndes, Every year I buy a Montana & Wyoming fishing license. Neither fishing license is valid inside Yellowstone National Park. I have asked the park service why my license is not valid? I was told Yellowstone National Park is not part of ANY state. Yellowstone is 100% federal land.

SpyroAndes 03-09-2005 09:19 PM

RE: Resident vs. Nonresident
 

ORIGINAL: Wolf killer

SpyroAndes, Every year I buy a Montana & Wyoming fishing license. Neither fishing license is valid inside Yellowstone National Park. I have asked the park service why my license is not valid? I was told Yellowstone National Park is not part of ANY state. Yellowstone is 100% federal land.
Are National Wildlife Refuges not 100% Federal Land?

Are National Forests not 100% Federal Land?

Are BLM Lands not 100% Federal Land?

What is the difference between Yellowstone National Park and any other Federal Lands?

Why are residents of these Rocky Mountain States given the equivalant of Hunting & Fishing Welfare on other Federal Lands?

SA

Wolf killer 03-09-2005 10:31 PM

RE: Resident vs. Nonresident
 
SpryoAndes, I did not say the answer they gave me made since. They charge the fishing license fee because they can. I think there fishing license is a joke & I will not buy one. I avoid yellowstone during the tourist season. I have plenty of fishing else where.

SpyroAndes 03-09-2005 11:04 PM

RE: Resident vs. Nonresident
 

ORIGINAL: Wolf killer

SpryoAndes, I did not say the answer they gave me made since. They charge the fishing license fee because they can. I think there fishing license is a joke & I will not buy one. I avoid yellowstone during the tourist season.
The state of wyoming does the very same thing to nonresident hunters... raping them for unreasonable tag fees and license fees... because they can since the Feds are not superceeding them like they are in Yellowstone.


ORIGINAL: Wolf killer

I have plenty of fishing else where.
Millions of elk hunters can't say the same thing.

Btw, if your only fishing option was the park, would you pay the Yellowstone fees or not fish again?

Welcome to the non-Rocky Mt State resident's quandry... Pay the rediculous tag and license fees that the Rocky Mt Sates are exploiting from nonresidents or never hunt elk again?

Slamfire 03-10-2005 07:56 AM

RE: Resident vs. Nonresident
 

ORIGINAL: RandyA

Spyro, I guess a resident has no priority in hunting his or her home state then? I simply don't and won't agree with your logic. Just because it is federal land, and very little game in this state spends the entire year, just on federal land, we have no preference. ...It's not broken why do you kalifornians want to change everything?
Because they are Socialists, sad as I am to put words like that on a family forum. But kids gotta learn sometime that there are people who think the majority has the right to trample the minority every time. Why the general public is decidiin' how to spend the earnings of people who earn more than $1million a year, by puttin on a special tax. Too bad the current courts won't protect the folks who produce the wealth the greedy want without workin.


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