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charlie brown 06-05-2004 09:33 AM

RE: 7mm or 30.06 for bear?
 
I am assuming you are meaning a 7mm Remington Mag. and Black Bear. If that is the case, then either will do fine for bear. For the 7mm, quality (Partition, Barnes X, A-Frame, Fail Safe, etc.) 160 gr bullets should do fine. For the .30-06, quality 165 or 180 bullets will do the trick.

DM 06-05-2004 01:27 PM

RE: 7mm or 30.06 for bear?
 
Either one is easily up to the job, but my choise would be the 30-06. The rifle will be lighter, and easier to carry than the 7 mag..

I like 160's in the 7mm, and 180's in the 06. a 165 grain Nosler partition would work well in the 06 too.

The caribou in the picture is one of (3) i took that day, with my 12 ga/30-06 combination gun useing 165 Noslers.

Drilling Man


j3k2c1 06-05-2004 02:29 PM

RE: 7mm or 30.06 for bear?
 
Gorgeous 'bou DM! Where did you get him?

txhunter58 06-05-2004 02:45 PM

RE: 7mm or 30.06 for bear?
 
No le Hace (There will be no significant difference in either gun) Pick the one you are most accurate with.

barefoot 06-05-2004 07:32 PM

RE: 7mm or 30.06 for bear?
 
Have you seen the .50 Beowolf? The stats are awesome!

DM 06-06-2004 11:59 AM

RE: 7mm or 30.06 for bear?
 
j3,

I shot the pitctured caribou, and two other bulls on the Alaska Peninsula. All three were for the freezer for my self, and a friend. We also took home some "beef", off an island that had wild cattle on it. The goverment wanted them "removed", so i thought i'd "help them out" a bit!! :>)

Drilling Man


Carpmaster 06-06-2004 12:32 PM

RE: 7mm or 30.06 for bear?
 
I would prefer the 3006 for bear given the coice. Nice bou DM, very pretty animal.

handloader1 06-07-2004 01:05 AM

RE: 7mm or 30.06 for bear?
 
Flip a coin. Good luck.

Bear Wallow 06-07-2004 12:37 PM

RE: 7mm or 30.06 for bear?
 
The .30-06 because of the greater frontal area. The bigger heavier bullets of the 30 caliber win every time over any 7mm. With bear your shots will come close and a long 220 grain would do the trick. I use 180s for everything in my 06. The 7mm Remington Magnum is not the dragon slayer people think it is.

Sharp Shooter 06-07-2004 03:33 PM

RE: 7mm or 30.06 for bear?
 
7mm

DM 06-07-2004 04:46 PM

RE: 7mm or 30.06 for bear?
 
Hey bearwallow,

What's wrong with a 7 mag???? I've seen a bullet from a 7 mag. go entirely through a brown bear (with soft points) and kill it as dead as dead can be, now you think it's maybe not enough for black bears??????

The 7mm Rem mag with 175 NP's will out penetrate a 30-06 with 220 grain RN bullets, and given any decent shot placement will kill what ever it hit's DEAD!!! How do i know this??? Well, i use to shoot a 7 Rem. mag. a "lot", and because i've done the above my self, and seen it done by others many times!!!

BTW, i no longer own a 7mm magnum, but i sure know what one will do!!

Drilling Man


stubblejumper 06-07-2004 09:08 PM

RE: 7mm or 30.06 for bear?
 

The 7mm Remington Magnum is not the dragon slayer people think it is.
Neither is the 30-06.There is no magic cartridge.Bullet construction means far more than bullet weight as far as penetration is concerned.I have taken a lot of game with both 7mm and .308" bullets and the best penetration that I have seen was from 7mm- 140gr failsafes.I have seen the heavy 220gr .308" bullets expand too much to attain maximum penetration.

glock29rd 06-08-2004 10:48 PM

30.06 for bear !!!!!!!
 
i would use 165 grain winchester fail safes or barnes X triple shocks .... both would
drop a bear in its tracks...i have to admit i am a fond admirer of the 30.06..
my 1903 springfield 30.06 has done the trick with any grain of my choosing..lol...
good luck i imagine a 7 mag is an excellent choice also..

Xavantes 06-12-2004 11:40 PM

RE: 30.06 for bear !!!!!!!
 
would the 7x57 mauser fall under the 7mm category?

thndrchiken 06-13-2004 07:44 AM

RE: 30.06 for bear !!!!!!!
 
I imagine he's referring the the 7mm Rem Magnum. The 7mm will shoot a little faster and flatter than the 06. Is it enough to notice, some might but most won't. I own two 06's and on occasion have an opportunity to hunt with a 300 winmag and a 7mm mag. All three will do the same thing and that is put an animal down if you place the shot correctly.

Mr. Longbeard 06-13-2004 12:37 PM

RE: 30.06 for bear !!!!!!!
 
I would use what ever gun I felt the most comf with. Hell a 30-30 will do the job:eek:

glock29rd 06-14-2004 12:19 AM

RE: 30.06 for bear !!!!!!!
 
i agree mr longbeard.... i honestly it comes down to shot placement which comes with conifedence in your shooting ability and the rifle that you are shooting..

DM 06-14-2004 02:26 PM

RE: 30.06 for bear !!!!!!!
 
7x57 Mauser is a good blk bear cartridge!! Use 150 or 160 grain bullets, and it will easily do the job!!! You can only kill them so dead, don't ya know!! :>)

Drilling Man



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