Best 300 outthere?
 

I'm in the market for a new 300. I know I can always buy a 300 Win. but want to try something different. Anybody have any thoughts between the 300 WBY, WIN, WSM, RSAUM. Etc

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I have 3 rifles chamberd in 300 UM,2 remingtons and 1 winchester M-70.I like this round for about anything.I have 1 300 WSM,this is a good rifle just about as good as the 300 win..The only prioblem with the short-mags is you can get the performance with the heavy bullets,200 gr-220gr.
You realy can't go wrong with any of the modern .300 magnums,they all shoot flat,some just a little flater and faster.
I will put it this way this is how I rank the .300 magnums.
1.Lazzeroini Warbird(Big and bad)
2.Weatherbys 30-378 mag(kick you into a new time zone)
3.Remington 300 Ultra Mag(Fast,flat and mangeble)
4.Weatherby 300 WTHY mag.(fast,flat and a little more than the Winchester)
5.300 Winchester(Can't keep a good dog down)
6.300 Winchester short or 300 Remington SA ultra(I think these guns should have been named diffently like the ".308 Winchester Mag.")they are like the ".308 vs 30-06".The 308 is good but the 30-06 is better kinda thing going on between them.
Some where in there the .308 Norma fits but I have never shot one,let alone see one.That is about how i rank the .300 magnums.Hope this helps BBJ.

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My wife's uncle, My father in law, and I all have 300 Savage's. Awesome guns.

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If you are planning on hunting, I am going to suggest you stay with .300 Winnie. I recently acquired a Sako in .300 RUM and have to say, at the velocities it produces, you are going to blow through whatever you shoot at, it is just too fast. Ditto for the .30-378 and warbird. I don't think you can load it down much and still get reliable ignition. If you want to find game, and then have to back off a few hundred yards, have fun. I don't see a role for those cartridges in hunting. Want to buy a SAKO 75 .300 RUM cheap? Every Garts in Boulder Cty has one for $699...

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I would go for the .30-378 Wby. Mag., .300 RUM, or .300 Wby. Mag. in that order. Good luck.

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300 WSM. Plenty of power almost pleasant to shoot. It still does pretty well with the 200 grain bullets.

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My first pick would be the 300 win mag. If you reload you can work it even better.
I think the most important thing above all else would be how the weapon fits you. You will find your shooting more comfortable & accurate. Lengh of pull, drop and cant on a stock are very important. If you pick up a Seiko or a Sig you will be delighted with the palm swell.
Good Luck

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i have the remington model 700 bdl in 300 ultra mag and just love it , it is very accurate shooting rifle, and the recoil isn't as bad as people say at least to me.

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As Colorado has said,the .300 Ultra mag will pass completly trough what every you shoot,if you use to heavy of bullets for the game,like deer.
I had this happen 2 years ago,I was chassing elk and had a oppertunity to shoot a nice whitetail buck close in the timber,about 30 yds.At the shot the buck jumped and ran,I walked to were he wes and their was blood all over.After a long tracking job I found the buck,dead in is bed.When I cleaned him there was not much damage to the vitals,hole through his heart and lung.I was shooting a 200 gr nosler partrition,I hit no bone and at that range,velocity and bullet construction,the bullet never had much chance to expand.Since thet all of my shooting has been with 180 gr Nolslers or Siccoro's.I have shot deer,elk and antelope with it in these 2 bullet styles and they have worked ideal.

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I now have my dad's old 300 H&H mag in a Remington rifle.
It's long, heavy and older than I am, but it still carries a punch.
I don't think any manufacurers are making this caliber available in any new rifles though.
Camo

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I'm partial to the 300 Weatherby,a bit more pop and a bit flatter than the Win. There are a wide variety of bullet weights to choose from,ammo is a bit costly if you don't reload.

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I have owned and taken game with 300 RUM, 300 Win Mag, 300Weatherby. They all do an excellent job. Sold them all and bought a Win Model 70, SS in 300 WSM. It also kills elk cleanly, and is more than enough for anything else I hunt. One is as good as the other. Some just kick a little more, make a little more noise, and push the bullet a little faster. I doubt the dead animal can tell the difference. Truth be told, it's the person behind the gun far more than the gun/caliber. You should be quite pleased with any of them.
Good Hunting,
Hal

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Fisher,
Why not just get yourself one or two of each, in assorted makes and models, then test them out, oh, say over the next 25 or 30 years and give us a report on your progress ever now and then. As a matter of fact, why don't i participate myself, gun show's coming up in april, i'll just start picking some out, we can average out this test that way, might come up with some pretty impressive results(at least that's the story i'm giving to my wife). I allready have the 300 winnie, bought brand spanking new in l974. A remington 700 bdl with 4x scope for $149.00, if my memory serves me correctly, oh if they only were the same price today!!!!

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What speedgoat said. Give em twenty years and all the new will be worn off and some of the 300's will have went by the wayside. My prediction is the 300win, 300weatherby, and the 300rum will be the ones that stick around. I hate to say it but I think the short mags will be left behind. I guess in time we will find out.

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Speedgoat is right you will need several of each..you may want to invite a bunch of us to help you test these. It would be safer that way!:D

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Improper bullet choice will deliver the same results with all cartridges.The higher velocity of the 300 ultramag actually increases bullet expansion.

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Improper bullet choice always fails.

Based on any reliable data I can find, you can reliably load a 150gr partition (in .300 RUM) down to 3400 and as high as 3900. Either way or anywhere inbetween it is a horrible choice.

As our beloved BJ says, "plastic is fer wimmins pantees". Pantee tips will explode. Lighter partition style bullets are moving WAY to fast to stay together. Barnes X expand as low as 2200 (per Barnes) and you will end up with four petals and a stub at 3400. That RUM is just too darn fast for expansion on NA game sized animals.

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I think the best 300 out there is the 300 ultra mag. But I like the 300 wby mag.

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I've had a 300 win for a while, and the animals I've killed haven't known what it was shot with. No amount of velocity or bullet weight is gonna compensate for poor shot placement. Make sure that you can shoot well whatever rifle you choose. that being said, I favor the 300 win, cuz it has been around long enough and is popular enough for you to get ammo and supplies for it, pretty much wherever you go. you can get a wide variety of bullet weights in factory ammo, and a wide variety of rifles as well.

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Tikka .300 Win Mag. Put a Nikon Monarch or other top quality scope in the rings that come with the Tikka and on a good rest you'll be putting groups of 3 within a quarter consistently. You'll love it.

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I have hunted a lot with the 300 Win Mag and the 300 Weatherby Mag. Niether does too awful much meat damage with Hornady 180 grain bullets. They are however way more gun than I ever needed for deer and Elk. A few years ago I traded them all in. I have palns to get a 300 WSM. I have one to use if I need it until then. ( My Brothers) I picked up a 270 WSM a few months ago. No chance to shoot it yet with this cold winter we have had. My favorite 300 was the Remington classic the year it came out in 300 Win Mag. It fit me better than a couple of other 300 Win Mags I had. (savage and Ruger). I hated the Mark Five Weatherby 300 Mag. It had the worst trigger of any rifle I ever owned. The stock about knocked my cheek bone off every time I pulled the trigger. I havn't even looked at a Weatherby Rifle since. I do like the Vanguards though.

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I have driven 140gr partitions out of the 7mmstw at over 3500fps and they still retain close to 70% of their weight after passing through the shoulders of a bull elk.I have also killed elk with 100gr partitions driven at well over 3500fps out of the 257wby with weight retension of well over 60%.


I have personally killed five elk and two bull moose with 180gr bullets out of the 300ultramag and all were quick,clean, one shot kills.What personal experience do you have with the 300 ultramag to make that statement?

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I quess it comes down to the same thing so many of these topics come down to. There is no best 300. They will all do about anything that needs done in NA. Some are a little faster than others, Some have more or less recoil than others, Some have shorter bolt throws and come in lighter rifles. They will all shoot a 180 grain bullet fast enough and with enough penetration to kill anything in these parts or most other parts. You can add the 308 and 30-06 to this mix and still do the same thing. Pick the one in the gun you like best and enjoy it.

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I really like my new Savage 300win short. I have yet to hunt with it but it shoots freakin' great with about the same recoil as my 30.06.
I for one believe that this cartridge may prove to be the next 30.06 and be around for a long time.

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I Agree. The short mags are here to stay. I don't think they will replace the 30-06 but they may cut into the long magnums nich. People will realize that the short mags are plenty for North America and as more guns and loads become available at places like WalMart which they already have here, They will continue to grow in popularity. Its true that they won't shoot the heavier bullets quite as well but in 45 years of hunting I have only used a thirty caliber bullet over 180 grains once and that was just because a guy gave me a box to try out.

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Weatherby for me. Shoots dang flat with great knock down. You can choose from alot of different grained bullets. Just hard to beat

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in my experience i would try and get my hands on tikka t3 it's a smooth gun that kicks staight back and not up and down like most rifles do



keep guns banging

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I have this same exact set-up as MinnFinn was suggesting.

Tikka is made by Sako. I wont be buying a new rifle anythime soon. This thing does all I could ever ask of her.

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After a bunch of research I am planning on purchasing a 300 RUM for the coming big game season.

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.308 Norma Mag.?

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The best one is the one you like the best, they all have different pros and cons.

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I've shot them all. I like the weatherby .300 mag. the best. Butit took some ammo trial and error to get the perfect load. i'm not sure there is the best out there. if you try different grain loads and brands you'll find they all dont shoot the same. each gun will have a favorite shell they shoot the best. I'm sure you can get any ol' .300. test a bunch of different ammo. and after finding the rounds that shoot the best for that gun. you'll be happy w/ the results. I have.

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What Western MA Hunter said. A 300 Savage.

You can get them on gunsamerica.com




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