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ARO 02-10-2002 01:20 PM

sizing black bear in the stand
 
what is the best way to size black bear from the tree stand, and whats a good rule of thumb on a shooter bear.

ARO

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Pro-Line 02-10-2002 01:25 PM

RE: sizing black bear in the stand
 
It takes some experience, but there are two ways that are fairly easy to remember.
1. If a bear's ears look big...the bear is probably not.

2. If a bear looks long-legged, it is probably small.

Experience is the best way to size a bear.

Lilhunter 02-10-2002 07:53 PM

RE: sizing black bear in the stand
 
here's a great link on judging the sex of blackies also.....I agree on the 2 things pointed out above and also have heard of folks using objects, be it a hung stick at a certain height or the barrel of a drum as measurements as to just how big a bear is. Also you can get them to stand by hanging bait or dripping molasses or honey on a tree....works in Mn wouldnt see why it wouldnt work elsewhere! You would have to figure out how big they would be nose to tail but I am sure after looking and measureing a few rugs at the local taxidermists you can hang your baits or mark a tree at a certain heigth to give you an estimate!

Also how a bear comes into a bait. If they come in shy and slow there is usually a bigger bear around. Its pretty obvious they are not king of the forest! If that sucker comes in and has no worries, sits down and owns the place..that is more likely then not the biggest bear in your neck of the woods! Hope that helps some..here is the link.

http://fwp.state.mt.us/bearid/

RNZ 02-11-2002 11:53 AM

RE: sizing black bear in the stand
 
Bears often suffer from "ground shrinkage" when recovered at the end of a successful hunt. Here are a few more tips to avoid this from happening:
Look for a ferrul on the skull between the ears. A bear with this dip has a large skull and is probably a "keeper"
Also bigger male's snout may appear to be short or pug- nosed.
Bigger bears will walk like big bears, more of a swagger than young bears.
Lastly, imagine yourself, or someone whose weight you know, on all fours next to the bear. If it makes your 300 pound friend look small (take the hair into account), it's a good one.<img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle>

ARO 02-13-2002 01:14 PM

RE: sizing black bear in the stand
 
thanks for the info guys, i am going bear hunting in ontario on may 19, its my first time bear hunting, i will be using my bow.

ARO

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RNZ 02-13-2002 02:27 PM

RE: sizing black bear in the stand
 
I thought Ontario lost their spring bear hunt a few years ago?

Edited by - RNZ on 02/13/2002 15:29:34

nascar88 02-14-2002 07:50 AM

RE: sizing black bear in the stand
 
i thank you also guys, some helpful tips/hints in there.

WV Hunter 02-14-2002 08:46 AM

RE: sizing black bear in the stand
 
Some friends of mine that bear hunt all the time say if he looks like he could fit into a 55gal drum he's small. If he looks like there's no way, he's a shooter. I have only seen a handful of bears while hunting, and most were avg size. I will say though, when you see a big one like I did two years ago....there's no mistaking it. You'll know. The bear I saw was over 400lbs and it was an awesome sight at 25yds. Not even close to the 150-200lbers I've seen.

ARO 02-14-2002 09:18 AM

RE: sizing black bear in the stand
 
i am going with a friend of mine, so maybe its quebec, that we are hunting.
its near fort coulonge

ARO

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.358 02-14-2002 12:03 PM

RE: sizing black bear in the stand
 
ARO if you will send me you e-mail address I will send you some pictures of bears I took last year out of tree stands. One is the largest wild black bear I've ever seen in 25 yrs.( had shot a 450lb blond just the night before) I also have many on video tape. As the late Jack O,connor said the big ones look big. But you need to look at a few bears to know for sure what a big one looks like. They are the hardest animal I've ever tried to judge in the wild.

Tanya 02-14-2002 12:47 PM

RE: sizing black bear in the stand
 
The training session in Lilhunter's post is interesting and a good guide to tell the diffference between blackies and grizz. The other guys also made some very good comments. Another way we use to tell a large dominant bear here is the posture when walking. The larger bears usually have a pronounced swagger or sway, and will walk with their head low to the ground. A smaller less dominant bear will carry it's head high and often &quot;shoulder check&quot; while feeding or approaching an area. Size is also relative to where you are hunting and the genetics of the area. A 350 lbs boar where we live would not be considered all that big, where in other places it would be. If you ever hunt Vancouver Island on the west coast of Canada, you'll notice that the large boars have a shoulder hump similar to that of a grizz. There are however no grizz on the Island to confuse them with.

T.

ARO 03-17-2002 05:26 PM

RE: sizing black bear in the stand
 
thanks everybody for all the info, i have learned alot of good techniques. now i just need a little luck the spring!!!

ARO

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Shottist 03-24-2002 03:17 PM

RE: sizing black bear in the stand
 
Get yourself a 34-36&quot; stick and drive it into the ground next to your bait so that it protrudes 30&quot;. If the back is level with the stick when standing on all fours, the bear will weigh at least 250# dressed weight. Definitely not a boo-boo bear or yearling adult.

A DNR bear technicial once told me that as soon as the front paw print gets to 5.5x6.5&quot;, the bear will be upwards of 250#. However, it could be 400# too! Hard to measure from a stand obviously. The best route is the stick.

kos2186 03-28-2002 01:59 PM

RE: sizing black bear in the stand
 
like people have been saying, if the ears are far apart and the nose looks small, or if the legs look short, it's a biggun.


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