.30--06 factories for big boy bruins??
02-12-2002, 06:23 PM
#22
Nontypical Buck
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RE: .30--06 factories for big boy bruins??
Oh man Quill, NOW YA DUNNIT! LOL
I do agree, though. I am familiar with the tight Vang type chokes that Blain speaks of...and they're a good tight choke. However, it makes a hell of a lot more noise on the winshield when you hit a bumblebee compared to 9 mosquitos...LOL
I do agree, though. I am familiar with the tight Vang type chokes that Blain speaks of...and they're a good tight choke. However, it makes a hell of a lot more noise on the winshield when you hit a bumblebee compared to 9 mosquitos...LOL
02-12-2002, 09:53 PM
#23
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RE: .30--06 factories for big boy bruins??
Well the bumblebee weighs more than the 9 mosquitoes. My buckshot weighs more than any sigle projectile, up to 980+ grains.
From Squirrel to Elephant, the Shotgun is your gun.
From Squirrel to Elephant, the Shotgun is your gun.
02-12-2002, 11:58 PM
#25
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Rio Rancho New Mexico USA
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RE: .30--06 factories for big boy bruins??
NOMERCY,
If it were me, I'd go along with CRITTERGETTER on this one. Federal "Light Magnum" with the Nosler 180 grain Partition would be the first factory ammo I'd grab. I'd like to make two seggestions. When you buy your ammo, buy at least three boxes and check to be sure they're all the same lot number. This will insure they all shoot the same and give you enough ammo for your hunt and to zero the rifle with. The second suggestion is to contact your guide and get his opinion on the best distance at which to zero your rifle at. He'll have all the info you need. Good luck. Let us know how it goes.
If it were me, I'd go along with CRITTERGETTER on this one. Federal "Light Magnum" with the Nosler 180 grain Partition would be the first factory ammo I'd grab. I'd like to make two seggestions. When you buy your ammo, buy at least three boxes and check to be sure they're all the same lot number. This will insure they all shoot the same and give you enough ammo for your hunt and to zero the rifle with. The second suggestion is to contact your guide and get his opinion on the best distance at which to zero your rifle at. He'll have all the info you need. Good luck. Let us know how it goes.
02-13-2002, 06:25 AM
#26
Fork Horn
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RE: .30--06 factories for big boy bruins??
For starters, any 30-06 bullet on the market will kill any black bear alive inside of 150 yds. with proper shot placement. I hunt bears here in Eastern NC where it is not uncommon to see bears over 500 lbs. When I first got started, I bought a book titled "Hunting Trophy Black Bear." This book suggested that 150 gr. bullets from a 30-06 be used b/c they seldom leave exit wounds on bear. Their reasoning was that this way, all of the bullets energy was deposited in the bear, probably around 2500 foot pounds if you are hunting over bait and shots are at 75 yds. Also, with only one bullet hole, you did less damage to the coat. Some people prefer exit wounds, and I think they are needed when tracking deer, however, bear don't usually run far when shot, and any bear taking 2500 lbs. in the side will probably fall right over. Now if you want an exit wound, there is no need to buy expensive 30-06 ammo. Any 180 gr. bullet with a soft bullet will do. And if you really want to knock the hell out if him, look into remington's 220 gr. Core-Loct bullet.
With the right choke, 00 and 000 Buck will kill black bears very effectively and efficiently out to 80 yds. or so.
With the right choke, 00 and 000 Buck will kill black bears very effectively and efficiently out to 80 yds. or so.
02-13-2002, 10:35 AM
#27
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
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RE: .30--06 factories for big boy bruins??
Nomercy,
Go with the Hornady Light Magnums in 180gr. You will be more than happy with their performance.
Blain,
I won't even get into the whole Buckshot for bears thing. But, are you aware that Buckshot is made of lead and therefore is an extremely soft metal. Are you also aware that only a couple of Bucksot(at the most) can exit a barrell at one time. So, take this from a man that was born and raised in Arkansas and had probably fired more rounds through a shot gun at age 12 than 99% of the people in the world. When you try to force a big wad of Buckshot out of a tightly constricted barrel it flattens out. When Buckshot flattens out it sails. The last gentleman that wagered this point with me witnessed his shotgun with full choke put one pellet in a 30 inch circle at 25 yards. While my improved cylinder put all 9 in a 6 inch circle in the center. Buckshot will shot much much tighter than 1 inch per yard but that doesn't mean you should be shooting it at bears or boars or any thcik skinned animal with the capabilitly of mauling you.
Go with the Hornady Light Magnums in 180gr. You will be more than happy with their performance.
Blain,
I won't even get into the whole Buckshot for bears thing. But, are you aware that Buckshot is made of lead and therefore is an extremely soft metal. Are you also aware that only a couple of Bucksot(at the most) can exit a barrell at one time. So, take this from a man that was born and raised in Arkansas and had probably fired more rounds through a shot gun at age 12 than 99% of the people in the world. When you try to force a big wad of Buckshot out of a tightly constricted barrel it flattens out. When Buckshot flattens out it sails. The last gentleman that wagered this point with me witnessed his shotgun with full choke put one pellet in a 30 inch circle at 25 yards. While my improved cylinder put all 9 in a 6 inch circle in the center. Buckshot will shot much much tighter than 1 inch per yard but that doesn't mean you should be shooting it at bears or boars or any thcik skinned animal with the capabilitly of mauling you.
02-13-2002, 11:04 AM
#28
Nontypical Buck
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RE: .30--06 factories for big boy bruins??
Blain...if I can't tell EXACTLY where my shot is going to hit a big game animal, I'm not shooting.
With buckshot past 30 yards, you can very easily skirt the vitals of a big game animal. Yes, Blain even with the vang comp choke you can have a space 8" with no shots in it at that distance.
With buckshot past 30 yards, you can very easily skirt the vitals of a big game animal. Yes, Blain even with the vang comp choke you can have a space 8" with no shots in it at that distance.
02-13-2002, 11:31 AM
#29
Join Date: Feb 2003
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RE: .30--06 factories for big boy bruins??
Buck shot can be a devistating load, and would be a good choice to follow up a bruin after its been shot. Especially if that blood trail heads into dense undergrowth. But, buck shot wouldn't be my first choice for the 1st shot. I'd want a bullet that would have full potential for full penetration with an exit hole. Not too likely with buck shot.
With a baited hunt, you will probably shoot from an elevated position. Your entry hole will likely be high on the bears body. If you don't get an exit hole with lots of blood then tracking will be more difficult.
With a baited hunt, you will probably shoot from an elevated position. Your entry hole will likely be high on the bears body. If you don't get an exit hole with lots of blood then tracking will be more difficult.