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AlongCameJones 06-14-2021 12:20 PM

I found this video and couldn't help but sharing it.
 

The young 4-eyed blonde in the video says, "Make two trips."

Yeh, right, I like Plumcrazy's remark at that video post:

Make two trips, burn twice as much fuel, pollute the air twice as much, burn up time and money, add wear and tear to truck, risk having the item left behind for the second trip to get spoiled or get stolen, really smart young four-eyed blonde lady!

This forum is pertinent because it is displaying a "hunting vehicle" being used in a specific and practical way. I suppose the guy could use a trailer for his ATV but that adds more money and storage space spent. As long as it's perfectly legal and safe to do, practicality trumps animal dignity.

Does any person here think the way that buck is transported is distasteful? I don't. After all he had no room in the truck bed. Another question, might a cop stop him by the way that deer is being hauled for any safety reason? Is that buck securely fastened to prevent accidental loss of the load?

The issue to me is more about vehicle and highway safety in regards to securely and legally loading trucks than it is about appearing "tacky" to the motoring public. If that buck suddenly fell off at highway speed it could be a hazard to other drivers.The unusual way the buck is hauled may also unsafely distract other drivers even.

mrbb 06-14-2021 01:04 PM

many yrs ago or maybe just about the time most folks Owned cars and trucks, driving about town showing off your DEAD deer was normal and socially accepted, and common practice by hunters, there are tons of old vintage photo's showing this

But in more modern times when everyone is over sensitive to FEELINGS
driving about showing off ones KILL, will most likely do nothing positive for the person doing so, and maybe draw a lot of un needed attention to the sport in a negative way
hunters are a very small percentage of the population and growing smaller all the time
while I won't bash anyone for showing off a dead deer they LEGALLY hunted or claimed(road kill)
I don't think its the best way to haul them anymore

I also don;' think the way this person is hauling it it all that safe , I highly doubt t that lifting device was intended to be used this way for long periods of time, or the added stress use the moving vehicle and weight on it!
just MY OPINION On this, as I don;t knwo for c ertian!

yrs ago, gun racks in pickup truck rear windows was all fine and dandy too
these days, it might get you stopped and hassles, or having your guns stolen or??

times have changed, IMO< many NOT for the better, but the worse and getting worse all the time!

Bocajnala 06-14-2021 01:23 PM

While I recognize the idea of "don't give the antis anymore ammo against us" (and even agree that it may be best) I simply don't care. These past few years with the cancel culture etc have just soured me on all that entirely.

I don't care who's offended. And admittedly that's probably the wrong approach.

Not that it would matter where I live but I hang my deer out where it can be seen. Sometimes for 7+ days. No cares given.

-Jake

AlongCameJones 06-14-2021 02:33 PM

My biggest concern is getting pulled over by the police for whatever reason. That kind of deer rigging on the bumper actually might fly with the law in Oklahoma or Texas. As a motorist, I would still keep my distance if any vehicle load looks precarious. Treat that hanging deer like following a logging truck up a hill. Personally, I would want my deer lying inside my truck bed wrapped up in a tarp and the body cavity packed with ice as a matter of good game preservation.

Years ago I rode motorcycles and being close to a load like that on a bike would seem especially menacing.

mrbb 06-14-2021 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by AlongCameJones (Post 4393103)
My biggest concern is getting pulled over by the police for whatever reason. That kind of deer rigging on the bumper actually might fly with the law in Oklahoma or Texas. As a motorist, I would still keep my distance if any vehicle load looks precarious. Treat that hanging deer like following a logging truck up a hill. Personally, I would want my deer lying inside my truck bed wrapped up in a tarp and the body cavity packed with ice as a matter of good game preservation.

Years ago I rode motorcycles and being close to a load like that on a bike would seem especially menacing.

just a FYI, DON"T ever wrap your deer in a plastic tarp, that's NOT a good idea, you will end up trapping in the heat , its trying to get rid of!, there is no need to wrap a deer in plastic, (unless your trying to keep blood off things and even then DON"T wrap it, just place tarp under it!
unless temps are very warm NO reason til add a lot of ice either
once gutted the deer will vent off body heat

Bocajnala 06-14-2021 05:08 PM

If you need to wrap a deer, dusty conditions etc, use a sheet. It doesn't hold heat in like a tarp or plastic would.

-Jake

CalHunter 06-14-2021 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by Bocajnala (Post 4393099)
While I recognize the idea of "don't give the antis anymore ammo against us" (and even agree that it may be best) I simply don't care. These past few years with the cancel culture etc have just soured me on all that entirely.

I don't care who's offended. And admittedly that's probably the wrong approach.

Not that it would matter where I live but I hang my deer out where it can be seen. Sometimes for 7+ days. No cares given.

-Jake

Now that's what I call aging your venison. :D

AlongCameJones 06-14-2021 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by Bocajnala (Post 4393112)
If you need to wrap a deer, dusty conditions etc, use a sheet. It doesn't hold heat in like a tarp or plastic would.

-Jake

Canvas might hold in heat too. Maybe just a tarp or old sheet underneath the animal like mrbb says. I don't know if it's a good idea to lay a deer directly on a truck bed with a Rhino liner. Some guys might not want blood all over their truck bed. There is a method of gutting I saw on YouTube that is virtually bloodless.I like the looks of this method since I'm a guy who likes neatness (I might use a butt plug too to hold in the deerchit):

Bocajnala 06-15-2021 03:07 AM


Originally Posted by CalHunter (Post 4393115)
Now that's what I call aging your venison. :D

I started a few years ago experimenting with different hanging times, skin on/skin off, hanging before butchering, aging in the refrigerator after butchering and freezing but before cooking, etc.

I *think* my longest was ten days. But I can't say for sure. I know I've done 7 several times.

-Jake

Bocajnala 06-15-2021 03:19 AM

If you're worried about blood on the tailgate hunting is the wrong game for you.

-Jake

mrbb 06-15-2021 06:54 AM

laying a deer on a bed liner will not hurt deer or truck at all
that's nonsense to worry abiout such things!

and many folks believe in aging a deer or like type animal after they shoot it
a lot comes down to beliefs and well, having the proper place to do so without worry of the meat spoiling

ME< I prefer to have my deer butchered as fast as I can, I don;'t try to race myself
but I also don't put things off to age them
never found any benefits for ME< to be aging deer

most of my deer are shot and butchered, freezer or vacuum sealed the same day/ of being killed!
that or the next day

I some times butcher my own deer, if not I have many friends that are butchers and will do so for me, so I am a little spoiled or just very lucky here on this and very happy at same time HAHA!
and a FYI< there isn't really any difference in HOW the taste of a deer is, between Female deer and or male deer from my experience

its more about how the animal lived(age can factor in but doesn't always) and how its killed, and how its handled after being dead, and then, one of the bigger parts IMO< is how its being cooked and prepared to be eaten!
so, unless your hunting FAWNS, there isn;t a HUGE difference in meat quality on average between a male or female deer!

and weights of deer don't always go by sex either
as a FACT, the heaviest ever recorded deer in PA. was a female deer with antlers!,
but typically an adult female deer will weight a LITTLE less than an averaged age male deer shot
, since most average male deer shot are not much more than 3 yrs old IF that!
so all them BIG 200+ lbs deer folks brag about, honestly are NOT very common
the average buck and average doe, typically are NOT that far apart in weight!

AlongCameJones 06-15-2021 09:33 AM

Those big deer are more common down south. They are also common in Oklahoma and Texas where there is farm land and domestic food deer have access to. I'm sure a Rhino liner will wash easily with a hose, brush and Tide powder. Stuff like gun cases and backpacks can be placed in the back seat of an extended cab or double cab to prevent blood-soiling or gear can be wrapped in the tarp to protect it.

Oldtimr 06-15-2021 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by AlongCameJones (Post 4393120)
Canvas might hold in heat too. Maybe just a tarp or old sheet underneath the animal like mrbb says. I don't know if it's a good idea to lay a deer directly on a truck bed with a Rhino liner. Some guys might not want blood all over their truck bed. There is a method of gutting I saw on YouTube that is virtually bloodless.I like the looks of this method since I'm a guy who likes neatness (I might use a butt plug too to hold in the deerchit):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naiYPu4lzac


Ever hear of water and a hose? Your posts are in the land of the absurd, where do you come up with this crap? If blood bothers you you should probably take up a bloodless sport.

mrbb 06-15-2021 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by AlongCameJones (Post 4393135)
Those big deer are more common down south. They are also common in Oklahoma and Texas where there is farm land and domestic food deer have access to. I'm sure a Rhino liner will wash easily with a hose, brush and Tide powder. Stuff like gun cases and backpacks can be placed in the back seat of an extended cab or double cab to prevent blood-soiling or gear can be wrapped in the tarp to protect it.

actually the larger body whitetail deer species are up north NOT south!
if you do a little looking on REAL data, you will see there are several different sub species of them
and all the larger one's are NOT from the southern part of the USA or canada!

most of the best well managed ranches in Texas ( and I am friends with a few that own some of these)
mostly all manage for antler score NOT weight
and most BIG deer on there ranches seldom exceed 200 lbs on average

when deer in most Of Canada will go WELL passed that weight more 300+ lbs on average on, well managed properties and deer are OLD enough to get there
I have killed a few over 300+ lbs in my life time too!

deer typically in the south are smaller bodied NOT larger!

time to maybe do a little fact checking before making claims on things you really know little about!

also if you field dress your deer where you SHOT/KILLED it,
and then proceed tod rag it out of the woods , a few hundred yards for most folks or more
by the time you get to your truck MOST all the blood in the deer that is going to come out already has, so the amount of blood you get on your pretty truck bed or bed liner will be very little and why so few folks even think about it

havin ga cap or camper on your truck, might make washing a TAD harder , ONLY if you have other things in it you wish to keep dry

but a simple self service car wash will clean any blood you get off your truck in a fast simple easy to do step!

its a truck, its made to haul things in the bed from dirt to ???




mrbb 06-15-2021 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by AlongCameJones (Post 4393135)
Those big deer are more common down south. They are also common in Oklahoma and Texas where there is farm land and domestic food deer have access to. I'm sure a Rhino liner will wash easily with a hose, brush and Tide powder. Stuff like gun cases and backpacks can be placed in the back seat of an extended cab or double cab to prevent blood-soiling or gear can be wrapped in the tarp to protect it.

also, a personal friend of mine owns 1500+ acres in eastern OK< and he shoots 200 lb deer on occasions, (some even heavier) but he's very selective on what he shoots and allows/manages his land to allow deer to get to 7-8 yrs old , which is WHY they can get to the weights above average!
so, larger deer can be had in any part or place , if one manages there land for them and has enough land to do so!

but given the sub species of deer in a location, is what truly limits there MAX weight potential , as give the same exact food
different sub species will always grow heavier and there northern sub species NOT southern one's!

CalHunter 06-15-2021 06:18 PM

I'm not sure why the OP posted this in the Classified Section under Automotive. That's the wrong forum. Please post topics in the correct forum.

MudderChuck 06-15-2021 09:41 PM

I honestly think it is a good idea, the blood drainage and such is easily washed away if you plan a little. But the Ticks are a whole other story. I have a large tub especially made for the back of my Jeep, A good idea for cleanup but the downside is the Ticks start unassing the corpse shortly after it cools some and they start crawling all over the inside of my Jeep. I've seen hanging Deer raining ticks. I put mine in XXL garbage or garden bags, I found some large enough and pack the body cavity with cool packs. The XXL garbage bags were a hit with my guides, I take extras for giveaways. Pocket flashlights and XXL garbage bags were both a hit for giveaways. :)



AlongCameJones 06-15-2021 10:47 PM


Originally Posted by CalHunter (Post 4393147)
I'm not sure why the OP posted this in the Classified Section under Automotive. That's the wrong forum. Please post topics in the correct forum.

I thought that was a forum on discussing HUNTING VEHICLES. My old eyes must have missed the Classifieds part, sorry. I didn't think this site was about selling, buying or trading things. Perhaps there should be a board on vehicle discussions or would that fit in Gear? I saw AUTOMOTIVE and thought my thread fit there. Since this was about the questionable ways and equipment for transporting game on a truck, safe or unsafe, legal or illegal, ethical or unethical, I thought motor vehicles (automotive) would be pertinent.

Come to think of it, the off-topic board might have been a good fit for this thread.

Oldtimr 06-16-2021 02:21 AM

There isn't a goof fit for this, ahh, nevermind.

Rob in VT 06-16-2021 04:12 AM

Back in the day we always hung our deer for 5-10 days. With the much warmer temps these days during deer season, that isn’t practical anymore.

Bocajnala 06-16-2021 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by CalHunter (Post 4393147)
I'm not sure why the OP posted this in the Classified Section under Automotive. That's the wrong forum. Please post topics in the correct forum.

I've suggested automotive/ATV sections several times. They don't seem interested.

-Jake

CalHunter 06-16-2021 08:36 AM

Joel just signed off on a a new long range forum in the Firearms section. He wanted to know if I had articles and material lined up for the new forum. I did through NoMercy448 and we now have a new forum. Instead of requesting the new forum in the Mod forum, I corresponded back and forth with Joel by PM. I agree with you on an Automotive/ATV forum. Let me know if you're going to pursue it again and I'll support it.

CalHunter 06-16-2021 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by AlongCameJones (Post 4393153)
I thought that was a forum on discussing HUNTING VEHICLES. My old eyes must have missed the Classifieds part, sorry. I didn't think this site was about selling, buying or trading things. Perhaps there should be a board on vehicle discussions or would that fit in Gear? I saw AUTOMOTIVE and thought my thread fit there. Since this was about the questionable ways and equipment for transporting game on a truck, safe or unsafe, legal or illegal, ethical or unethical, I thought motor vehicles (automotive) would be pertinent.

Come to think of it, the off-topic board might have been a good fit for this thread.

The Classified section is designed to remove all of those for sale topics from the regular forums so they don't clog them up. Most spammers violate this rule and automatically get permabanned. Once in a while, somebody comes back to complain but it doesn't speak well of them when they cannot read and follow simple rules. Most of the time they didn't bother to even look at the rules. Very few ever come back from a permaban under the same screen name.

hubby11 06-16-2021 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by AlongCameJones (Post 4393135)
Those big deer are more common down south.

As already noted, you have it backwards. Google "Bergmann's rule."

Champlain Islander 06-16-2021 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by hubby11 (Post 4393173)
As already noted, you have it backwards. Google "Bergmann's rule."

yes... the further north (colder climate) the larger the body. Hanging ....I still hang my Vt deer from 3 to 5 days. I have a rubber non slip mat in the back of my truck. It keeps coolers and equipment from sliding. I have found if blood is left for a long time it will stain the mat. I just hose it all off after I take the deer out within a few days.

Nomercy448 06-16-2021 09:09 PM

Carcass display has been illegal in Kansas for at least 20yrs that I recall, certainly standing before I learned about it.

As I understand it, the original law was derived to cease the old practice of piking coyotes on fence lines surrounding cattle pastures - certainly not the best look for any civilized culture. But the law was adapted to include prohibition of display in transport as well, supposedly spurred by complaints about vehicles being parked in front of small town cafés with deer tied across the hood (although there really aren’t many days out of our winters here which truly allow for such a thing without spoiling meat).

Anyway...

This guy would have been pulled over and ticketed in Kansas, without question.

And yeah... “don’t wanna get blood in my truckbed” and “canvas might hold heat...” man, just quit while you’re ahead.

AlongCameJones 06-16-2021 10:32 PM

Yes, I think just laying the deer on the truck bare bed is the best best. No fabric to soil. Rhino liners will spray right out with soap and a garden hose. Yes, quit while I'm not too deep in the hole.

Oldtimr 06-17-2021 03:42 AM


Originally Posted by AlongCameJones (Post 4393191)
Yes, I think just laying the deer on the truck bare bed is the best best. No fabric to soil. Rhino liners will spray right out with soap and a garden hose. Yes, quit while I'm not too deep in the hole.

Too late, you can no longer reach the top of the hole.

AlongCameJones 06-17-2021 03:40 PM

The chickens with choppers are lowering down the hoist into my hole to save this old cow. It's only too late when one is dead and buried in the hole. Nobody knew, nobody thunk it, nobody imagined...


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