.270 medicine for moose?
 

Hi Guys,first time Newfoundland moose hunt,would like to take my .270 , I understand bullet placement is everything, what would be a good bullet choice?

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That bullet still has 2000 ft/lbs of energy at 200 yards. Stick to 200 yards or less and you should be fine. The story I heard about the invention of the nosler partition is that he shot a moose and had the bullet blow up when it hit the mooses shoulder. He decided to invent a bullet that would keep on trucking even if it hit something solid.

Whatever bonded or mono-metal bullet is the most accurate in your rifle. I have had good luck with Barnes bullets in several different rifles that I have.

As txhunter posted check out federals website. If it was me i'd go with nosler 150g partition.but i cant talk from experience because i never shot a moose.

The Hornady Interbond is another good bullet for elk and moose and the .270 with the proper bonded bullet will more than do the job for you up there if you put it in the boilerroom. Anybody who says a .270 or 30-06 aren't enough gun for moose (or elk) probably has never even hunted them and is reading magazine articles to give their opinion!

I call it marginal. Here's some other opinions.


http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/big-...o-small-2.html

I guess it depends on where you hunt them , but in my limited moose hunting experience (once in Alaska and once in Montana) I would probably choose a 270 for a moose before I would use it for elk. Moose didn't impress me as being near as wild as elk and neither showed any inclination to run very far after the shot. It also seemed easier to get closer to them than elk. So I would have no qualms at all about shooting one with a 150 gr partition from a 270 out to 150-200 yards. Your experiences may differ. Course the "Is the 270 big enough" has been debated ad nauseum, but that wasn't his question...

I would go with a 150gr Nosler partition, or a 150gr. Speer Grand Slam, or a 140gr. Speer Bear Claw. All 3 are really good bullets that are more than good enough for the job as long as you put it where it needs to go.

Hornady 150 grain will flatten any moose oe elk that walks this planet.

i have shot several of both and totaly agree with your comment.

This is a very true statement IMO.
It was taken out of the link that Muley Hunter posted.


HFF, look at what the rest of the world uses to hunt similar sized and tough animals (6.5X55mm, 7mm Mauser, .303 Britt, etc...)and you will quickly realize that Americans are about the only ones that are hung up on 'needing' magnums to kill animals.
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Velocity kills

It is all about the velocity.

Kinectic energy= mass x velocity squared / 2

If you double the mass the energy doubles

If you double the velocity the energy quadruples

It is the energy of the projectile that determines the terminal effect in gunshot wounds

That is why the .357 magnum is so devastating. Medium caliber bullet but very hot and very very deadly.

if you were interested in like cheap ammo thats also bulk go to ammunitionstore.com

If Velocity kills then why do animals expire after being shot with arrows from slow moving bows or being shot from hard cast bullets moving at slow to moderate velocities? Velocity and Energy are only part of the equation. Proper shot placement is what kills. More accurately destroying the heart or lungs ability to function or even the central nervous system is what kills an animal.
You only need a bullet that is accurate enough and will stay together so it can hit the vitals. You need enough velocity and enough energy to penetrate to the vitals. I will agree that using a caliber that has more than enough of both to penetrate through dense bone or angling shots.

Velocity is only part of the equation. My .17 shoots a bullet at near 3000 fps, but won't be using it on game other than varmits.

You need both, the reason the 357 mag is a great SHORT RANGE weapon is that it throws a over 100 gr bullet at pretty fast velocities (although about 1/2 the speed of the 270)

Big ass, relatively slow bullets kill without a doubt. My muzzleloader is proof of that.

The trick is to find a happy medium between size of bullet and speed that matches the game you are after.

You guys are pretty funny arguing simple physics.

First off an arrow kills by hemorrhage, not the same as a bullet.
The way a bullet destroys the lungs heart and nervous system as stated is by energy deposition and the resulting temporary cavity created by a bullet. Surely you have seen a ballistic gel shot and the resulting disruption of the gel at distance from the actual bullet path. This is a direct result of the energy of the bullet. Do you need a fast bullet to kill? No, you can kill with a slow pointy stick as eluded to. That was not the question was it? It was about the .270 being bad medicine for moose.

As for your varmint gun slinging rounds at 3000 fps, that would be devastating on anything you shoot with it if the bullet will stay together. However, I doubt that a light varmit bullet will maintain those high velocities at distance. That is the nice thing about heavy bullets, they will maintain their velocity over distance.

Speaking of varmit rounds, the military and police fight with small high velocity bullets. They get it.

Figure this one out...

My 7mmRemMag ISN'T enough for elk! At least thats what I was told. But I know better

LMAO!!!! That is just too funny! I have killed several elk with my 280rem. without any problems, a 7mm mag is more than enough gun for a elk or moose. I work at a taxidermy shop, I see animals that come in all the time, you would be suprised to see how many elk I have seen taken with a 243. Shot placement is more important than caliber, you can be shooting a 460 Weatherby, if you make a bad shot chances are you will lose the animal, that doesnt mean you didnt have enough gun.

I use early 1800 technology, and do fine.

Anybody who can't kill a moose with a .270 needs to to the range, and learn to shoot. Even though I think it's just a bit light. It will still do the job with the right shot placement, and bullet.

A 150 grain Winchester Power-Point or Remmy Core-Lokt will kill your Moose just fine. Premiums are nice but unnecessary at speeds below 3,000 fps.

Nosler partitions are the way to go. Pricey but very tough bullets.

Shot placement and knowing your gun personally ie what load it likes that you can handle yourself. If you are shooting a load thats going to constantly make you flinch then you are almost certain to make a bad shot. One of the more famous outdoor writers from back in the 70's i think, killed an elephant with a 7mm mauser which isnt much different from a 270. Even the wicked popular .308 winchester has dropped many moose with well placed shots.

I've taken 6 moose with hornady 150 grain. But I've taken more with my old Winchester 30-30.

a 7mm08 would do well with 140-180 grain bullets