Yellowstone is Dead
01-22-2011, 09:50 AM
#72
Typical Buck
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 694
Bruce......Welcome to the Hunting Net. First post of many I hope.
Its funny how people my age that grew up in western states have come to believe true wildernes does not include preditors.
Funny idea about the "ballance of nature" what ever that is.
The truth is that most of these huge western elk herds were completely artificial. Entire herds have been created by winter feed programs that have run for decades and the removal of just about all preditors except 2 legged ones. This is reflected by elk with B and c scores exceeding 400 from a handfull in the last century to literally dozens a year now. A completley abnormal idea of normal has taken over.
By the way I'm as "true a hunter" as you are.
More Mules..........I read the same wolf artical from the paper version of the Yukon News. It is an informative article and no doubt all true. I don't understand how this bolsters your anti-wolf campaign. The Yukon has 485000 square kilonmeter and less than 35000 people, almost all of whom live in Whitehorse. It is almost all roadless. The wolves live as they always have because there is no one out there to hunt them.......hardly the situation in the western states.
Once wolves are delisted I have little doubt that they will be controlled with a yearly hunting season. Keep raging on wanting them gone and you will never have an opportunity to hunt a truely worthy trophy.
Its funny how people my age that grew up in western states have come to believe true wildernes does not include preditors.
Funny idea about the "ballance of nature" what ever that is.
The truth is that most of these huge western elk herds were completely artificial. Entire herds have been created by winter feed programs that have run for decades and the removal of just about all preditors except 2 legged ones. This is reflected by elk with B and c scores exceeding 400 from a handfull in the last century to literally dozens a year now. A completley abnormal idea of normal has taken over.
By the way I'm as "true a hunter" as you are.
More Mules..........I read the same wolf artical from the paper version of the Yukon News. It is an informative article and no doubt all true. I don't understand how this bolsters your anti-wolf campaign. The Yukon has 485000 square kilonmeter and less than 35000 people, almost all of whom live in Whitehorse. It is almost all roadless. The wolves live as they always have because there is no one out there to hunt them.......hardly the situation in the western states.
Once wolves are delisted I have little doubt that they will be controlled with a yearly hunting season. Keep raging on wanting them gone and you will never have an opportunity to hunt a truely worthy trophy.
It is easy to spot the "pretend hunters" spreading pro wolf propaganda straight from the anti hunting web sites. With the facts in that wolves have indeed wiped out 75% of the Yellowstone Elk it is clear the fairy tale misinformation that wolves some how balance nature has been exposed as a fraud. MoreMules has done an excellent job informing everyone. The truth of the matter is from the beginning this was a con job to close down hunting forever. Each of the 3 western state agreed to 150 wolves. Now it is estimated that Idaho alone has 1500 wolves killing 23 elk a year per wolf. 10 times the agreed amount of wolves. The anti hunters just keep brainwashing the city people to keep the money flowing sue the government to protect the wolves. Hunting is not going to control these huge numbers of wolves as they lay waste to country side. For the first time in 40 years hunting I have been in spots that you can only call barren wasteland all due to the wolves. The hunters need to quickly get informed up to speed and demand these wolves be forever taking off the Endangered species act otherwise the wolves will spread to all 48 lower states and hunting will be a distance memory.
Last edited by tangozulu; 01-22-2011 at 11:01 AM.
01-22-2011, 11:18 AM
#73
Spike
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 4
Wolves equal anti human
Tan thanks for the welcome.
The wolf lovers not saying you are equal anti human. Therefore that makes me prohuman not anti wolf. The wolves need to be controlled. No where is anyone saying void of predators. The point is the illegal dumping of the largest wolf in North American then protecting them like they are a God is ridiculous. The wolves bring nothing to the eco system but destruction, The packs are huge 10-22 in a pack are killing off the elk and deer in record numbers. It is documented fact the fairy tale that wolves balance nature has been exposed as a fraud. So why are worrying about wolves over our hunting culture? You could open a year season on wolves today hunting trapping snaring and it would take at least 5 years to get the mutts under control.
The wolf lovers not saying you are equal anti human. Therefore that makes me prohuman not anti wolf. The wolves need to be controlled. No where is anyone saying void of predators. The point is the illegal dumping of the largest wolf in North American then protecting them like they are a God is ridiculous. The wolves bring nothing to the eco system but destruction, The packs are huge 10-22 in a pack are killing off the elk and deer in record numbers. It is documented fact the fairy tale that wolves balance nature has been exposed as a fraud. So why are worrying about wolves over our hunting culture? You could open a year season on wolves today hunting trapping snaring and it would take at least 5 years to get the mutts under control.
01-22-2011, 12:10 PM
#74
Spike
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 59
Bruce......Welcome to the Hunting Net. First post of many I hope.
Its funny how people my age that grew up in western states have come to believe true wildernes does not include preditors.
Funny idea about the "ballance of nature" what ever that is.
The truth is that most of these huge western elk herds were completely artificial. Entire herds have been created by winter feed programs that have run for decades and the removal of just about all preditors except 2 legged ones. This is reflected by elk with B and c scores exceeding 400 from a handfull in the last century to literally dozens a year now. A completley abnormal idea of normal has taken over.
By the way I'm as "true a hunter" as you are.
More Mules..........I read the same wolf artical from the paper version of the Yukon News. It is an informative article and no doubt all true. I don't understand how this bolsters your anti-wolf campaign. The Yukon has 485000 square kilonmeter and less than 35000 people, almost all of whom live in Whitehorse. It is almost all roadless. The wolves live as they always have because there is no one out there to hunt them.......hardly the situation in the western states.
Once wolves are delisted I have little doubt that they will be controlled with a yearly hunting season. Keep raging on wanting them gone and you will never have an opportunity to hunt a truely worthy trophy.
Its funny how people my age that grew up in western states have come to believe true wildernes does not include preditors.
Funny idea about the "ballance of nature" what ever that is.
The truth is that most of these huge western elk herds were completely artificial. Entire herds have been created by winter feed programs that have run for decades and the removal of just about all preditors except 2 legged ones. This is reflected by elk with B and c scores exceeding 400 from a handfull in the last century to literally dozens a year now. A completley abnormal idea of normal has taken over.
By the way I'm as "true a hunter" as you are.
More Mules..........I read the same wolf artical from the paper version of the Yukon News. It is an informative article and no doubt all true. I don't understand how this bolsters your anti-wolf campaign. The Yukon has 485000 square kilonmeter and less than 35000 people, almost all of whom live in Whitehorse. It is almost all roadless. The wolves live as they always have because there is no one out there to hunt them.......hardly the situation in the western states.
Once wolves are delisted I have little doubt that they will be controlled with a yearly hunting season. Keep raging on wanting them gone and you will never have an opportunity to hunt a truely worthy trophy.
01-22-2011, 12:11 PM
#75
Typical Buck
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 694
I have killed a few decent bulls over the years, (all 6 point and on public land with OTC tags), though have been passing up on good bulls more and more now a days. I think the wolves I have taken over the years are just as high on my list of fond memories. I have taken about a dozen of them and have been passing up on them too lately. Doubt if I will kill another unless I see a white one. They really are a worthy trophy if taken fair chase.
01-22-2011, 01:04 PM
#76
Spike
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 4
http://www.idahoforwildlife.com/Webs...20heritage.pdf
The information cited above was provided by, "The Outdoorsman" Bulletin Number 22. Title: The Real Threat to our Idaho Hunting and Fishing Heritage.
The information cited above was provided by, "The Outdoorsman" Bulletin Number 22. Title: The Real Threat to our Idaho Hunting and Fishing Heritage.
01-22-2011, 04:06 PM
#77
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Kittitas, Wa.
Posts: 462
Excuse me .... not wanting to sound like one of these pretend hunters in this conspericy of yours......but weren't wolves in most of the lower 48 before the white man came here????
Just askin since I'm obviously an idiot because I fail to see what all the uproar is about .... all this goin on about importing wolves!!! wolves are not the only animal imported ....wheres the out rage for the ringneck pheasant or the hunagrian partrige...how many exotic game animals are there in texas????
Canis Lupus ... the gray wolf.... no matter where ya look there it is, in one subspieces or another includin the common dog!!!!! It's the same animal!!!! very little difference!!! including the common dog untill after man became involved and inbred them and cross bred them to get desired results... still canis Lupus ... are they really non native and imported????
Just askin since I'm obviously an idiot because I fail to see what all the uproar is about .... all this goin on about importing wolves!!! wolves are not the only animal imported ....wheres the out rage for the ringneck pheasant or the hunagrian partrige...how many exotic game animals are there in texas????
Canis Lupus ... the gray wolf.... no matter where ya look there it is, in one subspieces or another includin the common dog!!!!! It's the same animal!!!! very little difference!!! including the common dog untill after man became involved and inbred them and cross bred them to get desired results... still canis Lupus ... are they really non native and imported????
01-22-2011, 04:21 PM
#78
Spike
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 59
Excuse me .... not wanting to sound like one of these pretend hunters in this conspericy of yours......but weren't wolves in most of the lower 48 before the white man came here????
Just askin since I'm obviously an idiot because I fail to see what all the uproar is about .... all this goin on about importing wolves!!! wolves are not the only animal imported ....wheres the out rage for the ringneck pheasant or the hunagrian partrige...how many exotic game animals are there in texas????
Canis Lupus ... the gray wolf.... no matter where ya look there it is, in one subspieces or another includin the common dog!!!!! It's the same animal!!!! very little difference!!! including the common dog untill after man became involved and inbred them and cross bred them to get desired results... still canis Lupus ... are they really non native and imported????
Just askin since I'm obviously an idiot because I fail to see what all the uproar is about .... all this goin on about importing wolves!!! wolves are not the only animal imported ....wheres the out rage for the ringneck pheasant or the hunagrian partrige...how many exotic game animals are there in texas????
Canis Lupus ... the gray wolf.... no matter where ya look there it is, in one subspieces or another includin the common dog!!!!! It's the same animal!!!! very little difference!!! including the common dog untill after man became involved and inbred them and cross bred them to get desired results... still canis Lupus ... are they really non native and imported????
