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skillet01 11-21-2010 01:02 AM

tresspasser kills bear on my property
 
We lease 200 acres in nw pa that we have posted. We have leased it for the past 4 years and pay good money to do so. Well this saturday the neighbors decided they would push out the entire area. They shot a bear on my hunting lease less thant 200 yards from my buddie at 7:30am. The tresspassers laughed at my buddie when he told them whey were on posted property. The continued to hunt on our lease after shooting the bear and shot several more times at another bear at 10am. My friend left the property after hearing the last shots. I was not at the property when this happened my friend told me this late saturday night. In the past we have ran into guys during gun season tresspassing and we told them to make their way off the property. This seams like they knew it was posted and did not care. How would you handle this.

Blackelk 11-21-2010 03:45 AM

All this modern technology and you haven't set up a trail cam on these guys yet? Put it up a slim tree where they can't get to it unless they have a ladder and point it down a trail. Maybe you'll get them. Straight to the sheriff's office I say. In Colorado you'd lose your licesnce for 5 years trespassing.

countertop 11-21-2010 04:04 AM

I would let the landlord know, and then call both the game warden and police. They will lose bear, it was poached. Assuming your lease gives you exclusive rights.

Do you know wether your landlord gave permission to the neighbor?

finnbear 11-21-2010 10:08 AM

Kinda late to do anything about it now...yer bud shoulda called the cops while they were there, so they could be caught in the act!!!!!!!

skillet01 11-21-2010 05:45 PM

Found out who was one of the guys that were trespassing and was told "you don't want to mess with him ""he is a Big time red neck" We may have to let this one slide. I don't want to see tree stands and trail cameras comming up missing or worse .

the blur 11-21-2010 05:57 PM

Call the cops,
Call the DEC.

Done.

Or stop leasing the land.

---------------------------------

My leased land was poached so bad, there was nothing left for me on the 3 weekends I was up there.

Now I hunt on state land.

finnbear 11-21-2010 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by skillet01 (Post 3726443)
Found out who was one of the guys that were trespassing and was told "you don't want to mess with him ""he is a Big time red neck" We may have to let this one slide. I don't want to see tree stands and trail cameras comming up missing or worse .

Ya let him or his reputation scare ya off ya might as well just let the lease go cause, they will be back!!!!!! call the cops if they come back....they can't retaliate if they in jail, yeah they will get out, but if they even look at ya crosseyed call the cops............or just give up the lease!!!!!!!!!!!!!:hit:

Sheridan 11-21-2010 07:10 PM

OR.................tell us where your lease is so we can all hunt on it too !!!

finnbear 11-22-2010 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by Sheridan (Post 3726490)
OR.................tell us where your lease is so we can all hunt on it too !!!

LOL!!!!! that's funny ....but I just looked out the window at the 40 or so acres that R out there and tried to picture being confined to an area 5 times as big as that, I came to the conclusion that I wouldn't know how to hunt 200 acres!!!!
Do U just go and sit some place?? or do U walk the area?? and if so what do U do for the rest of the day??
:confused2:

Bocajnala 11-22-2010 08:07 AM

Do you guys hunt bear??? If so, then you need to confront them about it. If not, then I'd say stop whining about it. You like to hunt, so do they. Let them drive it if you're not hunting bear.
-Jake

skillet01 11-22-2010 02:32 PM

I did not hunt bear this year because it started the same day as ny gun deer season this year. One of the other 6 members of our lease was hunting it.
I also called the game commison today and they said that we should have called the police at the time. Then once the police site them for tresspasing the game commison could site them for poaching the bear if it was shot on posted property.

finnbear 11-22-2010 04:49 PM

Hey Bocaj.......posted is posted ...don't matter what they a huntin, it's their lease.....your post is very telling about you... I bet you're the type that come to a fence and crosses it just because it's not posted............the law is pretty much the same in all states ..if ya don't have permission to be there you are tresspassin!!!! Land owners in the state of Washington are NOT required to post they land!!!!!!!!!

Bocajnala 11-22-2010 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by finnbear (Post 3727091)
Hey Bocaj.......posted is posted ...don't matter what they a huntin, it's their lease.....your post is very telling about you... I bet you're the type that come to a fence and crosses it just because it's not posted............the law is pretty much the same in all states ..if ya don't have permission to be there you are tresspassin!!!! Land owners in the state of Washington are NOT required to post they land!!!!!!!!!

Finnbear, I've been posting here for a lil while now and never had anyone question my character. It doesn't say anything about me. "I bet your the type that..." WHat? Huh? O ya? Lol, We asses ppl on something like that huh? Well that's good. My reason for posting that is that we need to all just get along. I hunt three different states and have somewhere between 60-70 properties Im allowed on. I have that access because we've done work, good work, for a lot of ppl. I help them out, they help me out. I have no need to cross fences. If no one was hunting that lease for bear (which someone was) then let them drive it out, and make some friends. Making friends gets you alot further ahead than not making friends. Just my thoughts.

Skillet- Well that sucks then. Next time call on them, while they're there. Hopefully someone can do something. And I wouldn't worry about the "he's a redneck dont mess with him garbage" do what you gotta do, if he crosses a line, get the police involved. Dont let someone push you around.

-Jake

country1 11-22-2010 07:40 PM

Check with the landowner to see if they had permission. If they did, ask why and request a portion of the lease money to be returned. The authorities should have been called when the violation occurred. However, did they field dress the bear on the property? If so, there is evidence of a kill, and your friend is a witness. The authorities should still be able to make the case. It sounds like you may need to press this further in the right way with the authorities. You need to address this now, or the problem will just get worse. Always have a witness with you for your protection.

finnbear 11-23-2010 07:33 AM

poacher 1 to poacher 2....hey bubba they aint no mo deer over har.....poacher 2... no worry there jimbo we jus gonna jump across the fence into skillets lease...kill all the deer in thar... jimbo...ok ...yeah OK we got away with it last year and sides, bocaj said we shoulda been able to hunt thar anyways, jus cause we a coupla good ol boys and that the neighborly thin to do!!!! bubba......ya lets go we don need no stinkin pemisson to hunt ove thar!!!!!!!!!

Bocajnala 11-23-2010 08:08 AM

Have a good day finnbear, and a wonderful thanksgiving!
-Jake

finnbear 11-23-2010 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by Bocajnala (Post 3727433)
Have a good day finnbear, and a wonderful thanksgiving!
-Jake

Why thank you very much....and I will:biggrin:

Outdoor 12-26-2010 11:29 AM

Bocajmala...the point is simple if you don't lease it then you dont belong there. Not much more to talk about..
But let me run this by you...you have permission to hunt a particular piece of property and you have you sights set on a real fine buck probably the best one you would ever had taken and you are just about to say squeeze and another fellow hunter chasin some 150 lbs bear ruins the whole thing...are you still OK with a fellow hunter wondering thru? even though you know that he knows he should not be there? Tell the truth, now

Wolf killer 12-26-2010 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by finnbear (Post 3726710)
LOL!!!!! that's funny ....but I just looked out the window at the 40 or so acres that R out there and tried to picture being confined to an area 5 times as big as that, I came to the conclusion that I wouldn't know how to hunt 200 acres!!!!
Do U just go and sit some place?? or do U walk the area?? and if so what do U do for the rest of the day??
:confused2:

Finnbear, I was thinking the same thing, how does one hunt on 200-acres? We are lucky to live out west. I would most likely give up hunting if I had to hunt on only 200-acres?

fritz1 12-26-2010 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by finnbear (Post 3727091)
Hey Bocaj.......posted is posted ...don't matter what they a huntin, it's their lease.....your post is very telling about you... I bet you're the type that come to a fence and crosses it just because it's not posted............the law is pretty much the same in all states ..if ya don't have permission to be there you are tresspassin!!!! Land owners in the state of Washington are NOT required to post they land!!!!!!!!!

Check Idaho's laws, even if it is fenced off you can hunt it unless it has orange markers every 120ft on the fence line, or no tresspassing signs every 120 ft of the fence line, or if it is cultivated land. If it is not clearly, and properly marked, in Idaho you can hunt it

finnbear 12-26-2010 08:16 PM

actually fritz it's 660 ft for signage ...and if the property owner comes and tells you it' private property U have leave

fritz1 12-26-2010 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by finnbear (Post 3748083)
actually fritz it's 660 ft for signage ...and if the property owner comes and tells you it' private property U have leave

I knew it was something like that, wasnt sure exactly of the distance between signs. Quite of bit of difference between here and Washington, I used to live in Washington couldnt beleive how the laws are different here.

JW 12-27-2010 05:22 AM

In Wisc you don't need to hand signs. It is up to the hunter to know where he is.

JW


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