30-06 grain for deer and elk.
09-15-2010, 03:39 PM
#31
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Kittitas, Wa.
Posts: 462
I guess...or at least some of the posters here are LOL!!!!!!
the best one I saw was 30.06 was marginal after 250 yds!!!!!!
Obviously most here have never been in the sagebrush hunting elk!!! or mulies....... in most cases if U don't shoot 400/600yds U aint gonna get no game 30.06 with a 150 grain will still do the job at that distance, with close to 1400ftlbs of energy!!!!
09-15-2010, 07:21 PM
#32
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: orygun
Posts: 379
I guess...or at least some of the posters here are LOL!!!!!!
the best one I saw was 30.06 was marginal after 250 yds!!!!!!
Obviously most here have never been in the sagebrush hunting elk!!! or mulies....... in most cases if U don't shoot 400/600yds U aint gonna get no game 30.06 with a 150 grain will still do the job at that distance, with close to 1400ftlbs of energy!!!!
the best one I saw was 30.06 was marginal after 250 yds!!!!!!
Obviously most here have never been in the sagebrush hunting elk!!! or mulies....... in most cases if U don't shoot 400/600yds U aint gonna get no game 30.06 with a 150 grain will still do the job at that distance, with close to 1400ftlbs of energy!!!!
Last edited by jdhogg; 09-15-2010 at 07:23 PM.
09-16-2010, 05:22 AM
#33
Typical Buck
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 604
We all have diferent experiences. I always use heavy premium bullets on bull hunts (such as a NP). I have taken quartering shots at bulls that I would not have taken on a cow hunt, and I have shot bulls that were quite a bit larger than any cow that I have cleaned. The shots that I take on a cow hunt are always broadside, and probably at a closer average range.
I have shot some big bulls that were tough enough to take a well placed shot and still run down to the bottom of some hellhole before calling it quits.
It is my opinion that any good (fairly heavy for caliber) bullet traveling at .30-06 velocities will do an effective job on a calm broadside elk at reasonable ranges.
I have shot some big bulls that were tough enough to take a well placed shot and still run down to the bottom of some hellhole before calling it quits.
It is my opinion that any good (fairly heavy for caliber) bullet traveling at .30-06 velocities will do an effective job on a calm broadside elk at reasonable ranges.
09-16-2010, 06:38 AM
#34
Fork Horn
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: NW Colorado
Posts: 199
Hornady makes Superformance ammo with a 165 GMX bullet. This ammo replaces their "light magnum" line, but does the same thing: 200 fps faster with no more recoil.
Currently $32 at Midway: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...tnumber=911909
That is what I would be carrying if I were hunting for elk with a 30-06. IMO, it is the best compromise between speed and weight.
Currently $32 at Midway: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...tnumber=911909
That is what I would be carrying if I were hunting for elk with a 30-06. IMO, it is the best compromise between speed and weight.
I would be careful with this ammo. A LOT of pictures to support they are pushing the limits of HOT Loads with pressure in this line of ammo. 1 in 4 with primers gone after they are shot from one guy. Definite signs of high pressure.
09-16-2010, 06:57 AM
#35
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Kittitas, Wa.
Posts: 462
sir,my 721 flat out roocks!ive hit out to 500yrds and have killed out to 400 with it.maybe you just havent found a load or cant shoot.i use mine down around burns in the high desert and never felt undergunned.i dont need the newest faastest 30cal out there,or the newest trick super rifle.i suggest you try new loads or go get 300ultra or 338.anytime ya wanna go shoot the desert just let me know.no disrespect but your very wrong
Last edited by finnbear; 09-16-2010 at 07:02 AM.
10-19-2010, 07:14 AM
#37
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Kittitas, Wa.
Posts: 462
I saw a canned hunt, where they were hunting with a replica buffalo rifle and it still took 3 shots from a 45/70
The first 2 elk I killed was with a 25/35...was I close?? yes ......but it killed them dead!!!!! I think that hunting big game those first few years with that rifle taught me alot about how and where to shoot a big animal!!! when to shoot or not shoot!!!!
The first 2 elk I killed was with a 25/35...was I close?? yes ......but it killed them dead!!!!! I think that hunting big game those first few years with that rifle taught me alot about how and where to shoot a big animal!!! when to shoot or not shoot!!!!
10-26-2010, 10:01 AM
#39
Spike
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Martin, OH
Posts: 55
Hornady makes Superformance ammo with a 165 GMX bullet. This ammo replaces their "light magnum" line, but does the same thing: 200 fps faster with no more recoil.
Currently $32 at Midway: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...tnumber=911909
That is what I would be carrying if I were hunting for elk with a 30-06. IMO, it is the best compromise between speed and weight.
Currently $32 at Midway: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...tnumber=911909
That is what I would be carrying if I were hunting for elk with a 30-06. IMO, it is the best compromise between speed and weight.
10-26-2010, 10:34 AM
#40
Spike
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 75
So far all the random people I ask in person say, go with the 180, yet here I'm getting a lot saying go for the 165.
Here are 2 rounds I've been looking at and the 165 appears to have more velocity and energy. Are people just letting their heart rule their minds, assuming bigger is better, or am I missing something?
Just to remind you this is for mule deer and elk in Colorado.
SST and GMX are similar in the ballistics chart but no GMX at local stores.
Here are 2 rounds I've been looking at and the 165 appears to have more velocity and energy. Are people just letting their heart rule their minds, assuming bigger is better, or am I missing something?
Just to remind you this is for mule deer and elk in Colorado.
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$17 for 20 PremierŪ Core-LoktŪ Ultra 180gr Muzzle 100 200 300 400 500 fps 2700 2480 2270 2070 1882 1704 ft/lb 2913 2457 2059 1713 1415 1161 drop 2.1 zero -8.9 -25.8 -52.7 $29 for 20 Hornady 30-06 Sprg 165gr SST 81153 MUZZLE 100 200 300 400 500 yds fps 2960 2750 2549 2357 2173 1997 ft/lb 3209 2769 2380 2034 1729 1461 drop 1.6 0 -6.9 -20.1 -40.7
Last edited by o_O; 10-26-2010 at 10:36 AM.