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The 30-30 Win has also wounded more game than any other cartridge. Save the 30-30 for what it is best used for. A doorstop.

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BJ any body that has a profile like your (Most hunters are in love with the IDEA of hunting, not hunting itself. I do it to attract chicks.) you need help and if you actually belive that 99% of all shots in the woods are not place ment shots then you dont need to be in the woods.when i shoot i like to pick a spot if not even a hair .now getting back to a 7-08 it has about 17.1 inches of penetration at about 2400 fps impact velosety for a 175 grain bullet . and just for a note a 220 grain barns bullet only penetrates 11.5 inches and only holds about 66% of its weight and that is out of a 30 06 . PS a 180 nosler traveling at aprox 2700impact velocety only gives you 16 inches of penetration and a 175 grain partion spiter with impact velocety is 2400 (300fps slower than a 06) has 15.7 inchs of penetration. in short bj a 7mm08 expands to .540 diamater and a 06 only expands to 180 partion expands to 480 therefore a 7mm08 penetrates deeper and even expands more thefore also leaves a biger hole thus more damage

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Expansion ain' t yer worry with moose, its penetration. You gotta be able to shoot straight thu. Mushroomin' is fine, but onct you seen a puny bullet blow up on an entry wound, or tried to track without a blood trail, you' ll be tootin' a differnt horn.

Now given that the part ' bout attractin' chicks is BS, the part of my lil' ditty ' bout mos' hunters bein' in love with only the idea of huntin' is true, if you will admit it. Think about it, an outdoors sport where nobody talks about the outdoors? Outdoors topics here don' t last long. Jus' shootin' an' gadgets. Look at hunters in camp after a hard day' s ride an' hunt, they' re miserable. After day two, they cain' t wait to fill out an' head home, even though they daydreamed about the hunt all year. Not everthin' I say is serious, but I' m thinkin' that the fellers here thet are honest with themselves will agree on this one. Very few hunt because they truly enjoy and respect the outdoors. Otherwise, they wouldn' t be on the idjit tube so much an' be out wettin' a fly, or hikin' a trail, or takin' pictures. An then, all this talk ' bout calibers, cartridges, an' scopes would seem as juvenile to y' all as it does me.

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There is no actual bow season on moose here in Mt., but if I get drawn this year, it just happens to open dureing the archery season and yes I will be set up with 125 gr. thunderheads. I have seen these swamp donkies hang out on some of these ponds and if for some reason I can' t drop one with the 2314, then I will come back before the end of the season and bring the 700/ 30-06 loaded with 180 gr. Nozlers, Core-lokts are good too, but I get better groups in useing the Nozlers. If I' m out rideing the Quad and I got the 336/ 30-30, then I would not hesitate in useing that with 170 gr. core-lokts up to about 150 yrds with Williams peep sights.
This set up is what will work around here, if you go elsewhere, then it will be different, make the adjustments. Bobby ;)

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DON' T BRING THEM SISSY A$$ EUROPEANS INTO THIS. Why you think they got no animals anymore? 6.5x55 mauser my arse! People got no sense. No wonder they was left when all the good stock let out for the New World. Allays be some schmuck out there with a pop gun when he don' t have to be. I find their handiwork all the time; gut shot cows, bulls with their faces blowed off, deer hoppin' around on three legs. Makes me sick. I' m sure they was all toutin' the killin' power of their rifles too. Some never admit that they lose animals. I' m through with this crap. Like I said afor, comes through clear who' s got a lick of sense an' who ain' t.

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Jeez Beaver Jack, you`d think a guide would want to see some rules put in place like the Finns and Swedes have. Like qualifying with their rifle before being able to hunt moose and if you check you`ll find that for 2 very small countries they have a hell of alot more moose than the whole western US and damn near more than Canada. As I said before post your pics and lets see some of these moose that need a .338 to kill because the ones we hunt aren`t that big.

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bj qoute from you Allays be some schmuck out there with a pop gun when he don' t have to be. I find their handiwork all the time; gut shot cows, bulls with their faces blowed off, deer hoppin' around on three legs. Makes me sick i dont care if you shot em with a 223 or a friggen 416 if you hit im in the guts it is all soft tissue and they could very well survive and if you hit em with a 50bmg in the leg they are going to hobble away on three legs. get the facts straight . like i said befor if you cant hit were you want to hit dont take the shot . i bet you belive in the all mighty STOPPING POWER dont you

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Oh I see BJ magnums are more accurate and standard calibers are just wounders...Hmmm and your supposed to be a guide or something to that effect...

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dont think i would try it but a maine guide told me that the indians up there who have there own land use to shoot moose with a 22. they would place the shot somewhere between a spot in the ribs and it would walk around for a while and then just collapse. according to him the moose doesnt know he was shot and then expires fron internal bleeding. wonder if this is just one of those urban legends!

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No doubt that a 22 would kill a moose if the moose was hit in a lethal spot. I have heard many storries about Moose being hit with an arrow (heart/lung area) and just standing there, or walking along and feeding. One time I was told of a Moose which turned 180 degrees and offered the other side for another arrow. Two lethal shots, moose walked 15 yards then died. A 22 or an arrow does not hit the moose with alot of force, so the moose is not startled like a deer gets.

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Well Mainea, I read all the posts on this topic so far.
First let me say that I havent been here for a while because I got tired of all the petty bickering I witnessed.
Secondly, although I have never shot a moose I have killled many deer.
I own numerous rifles in many calibers, and always get acccused of overkill.
I know some say that the big magnums intimidate the shooter and I would agree that on the range they even affect me after shooting a while.
BUT, and thats a big BUT, I have NEVER felt, nor seldom even remember the big guns kick while shooting at game.
I think most would agree with me.
If I were you I would get a nice 338 mag since your hunt is virtually free, and shoot it at the range to sight in and get used to it.
Recoil has never been a big deal for me and I think a lot of it is hype.
Chances are your shoi will never be as picture perfect as you want it so why not take the exra measure and go with the heavier load.
No need for others to reply to me on this as I really dont want to waste time debating this already overdone post.
Thats my opinion for what its worth.

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Maineah:

You' ve fallen into a terrible rut. Get rid of those bolt guns before they totally warp your sense of reality, and get back into true hunting rifles - quick shooters.;):D

I' ve shot all of my moose with either a .303 British (a boring old bolt action - before I learned better) or a 30-06. The guns I currently carry for moose are a .35 Whelen and a .358 Winchester, but its not because of some perceived need for that level of power - it' s just because I feel like it.[>:]

In my camp, I' ve seen moose killed with 30-30' s, .35 Remingtons. .270' s, .303' s, .308' s, 30-06' s, 8X57' s, .35 Whelens and .300 WinMags. The poorest performance was a .300 WinMag shooting partitions.

If you' re unable to dispense with those abominable bolts before hunting season, I' d suggest you carry the 7mm-08 and use standard bullets of 150 grains or more.

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liquidorange - Your 22 story has to be one of the most ridiculous ones I' ve heard in quite awhile. Anyone and I mean anyone who would shoot at big game with something that is a target and squirrel caliber ought not to be in the woods.

No doubt someone, somewhere is stupid enough to have tried this and it' s possible that 1 in 1000 attempts at such a stunt might cause the moose to die where they see it. But it would be much more likely that a moose, deer or any other large animal would walk around wounded for a few weeks or months with internal infection, then die a miserable death in some spruce swamp or someplace never found.

Anytime anyone raises a rifle to fire at a magnificant animal like a moose, elk, deer or other animal best be sure it is something that gives a high probably, though it never a guarantee, that the animal will die in short order. I can' t for the life of me understand anyone in their right-mind using anything less.

It even bothered me last weekend on my trip up to N.E. Minnesota to see the folks, where someone had hit a yearly calf moose, which can happen to anyone at night. They are very tough to see with their almost black hide. But what really bothered me is that they left it beside the road to be eaten by the scavengers and flies, instead of using what was salvagable. What a waste!

Please show some common sense. Then again, as I always say...

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MinnFinn,

Don' t be quick to jump to conclusions. Alaskan natives up here have been known to kill POLAR BEARS (bigger and meaner than moose the last time I checked) with .222' s and .223' s with success. Personally, I think they' re crazy and stupid, but then again, they do bring the bears home with them.[:o]

Mainah,

I' d just use your 7mm-08 with a good premium bullet like a Nosler Partition or even the new Nosler Accubond.

My weapon of choice is my 338 Win. Mag. for all Alaskan game, but I would feel comfortable with hunting moose up here with a 7mm. My cousin took a bull moose with his Ruger 7x57 mauser with 175-grain bullets. One shot in the heart and the bull just stood there before finally falling over after about 30 seconds.

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I am a big bore freak myself, but if you can put one through the lungs with a 7mm.08, he should fall pretty quickly. Barnes X bullet would be my choice in the heaviest grain lead you can get for 7mm.08. Moose are very big boned so if you miss your mark and hit the front shoulder, you could be in for a very long day, that heavy lead just may be the deciding factor as to a wounded animal and a rack in the back of the truck at camp!!!