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Old 10-09-2008, 10:50 AM
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dude you have some rage and bitterness issues...

learn your enemy, we are not him....try a little more honey, not so much vinegar...
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Old 10-09-2008, 10:59 AM
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ethical and legal don't even belong in the same category. Each person has to decide what their "ethic standard is",but each person doesn't get to decide what is legal, or illegal. Some things are unethical and unlawful. But I can't think of one thing that is lawful but yet unethical!
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Old 10-09-2008, 12:03 PM
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I can. I consider hunting from a moving vehicle unethical, yet it is lawful in texas. The trouble with ethics is they arepersonal beliefs and each persons are different.
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Old 10-09-2008, 12:07 PM
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Personally, I'm not motivated by antler/horn size in my hunts. I have taken does as often as bucks on my deer and pronghorn antelope hunts (1 pronghorn hunt -- I took a doe). For me, hunting is not about the racks. I would not object to going on a guided/outfitted hunt, provided I am not hustled into a different kind of hunt than what I prefer. I like the idea of riding into a more remote area and having a cook make breakfast and dinner and to have a guide cut up my meat for me and haul it back on a horse. Notwithstanding, all my hunts so far have been do-it-yourself hunts and I have always butchered/packaged my own meat. I like the satisfaction of do-it-yourself hunts. It is a lot of work, however, and I confess to being beguiled by at least the idea of paying to have someone else do the hard work and just doing the fun part myself.

I guess my summary view of the guy who got the big rack is (1) if you don't measure hunting success by rack size, it doesn't matter and (2) if you do measure hunting success by rack size and you have already gone very far down that path, then you probably already know that it is a $$$ game. If you don't have the money, you aren't going to get access to the best lands to hunt pronghorn antelope; if you don't have the money, you aren't going to get access to the best lands to hunt whitetail deer; etc. Therefore, why begrudge a guy with more money getting to the big rack . . . as it is just a matter of degree not of kind.
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Old 10-09-2008, 02:57 PM
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Old 10-09-2008, 02:58 PM
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This is a never ending argument.


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Old 10-09-2008, 03:25 PM
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Just when you think you are at an all time low. Someone goes even lower. Not only a completely inappropriate picture and caption, but some extra obsenities at the bottom!
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Old 10-09-2008, 04:05 PM
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I went to report that offensive post, but see that someone beat me to it. There aren't many things that truly offend me, but that post by windog1 certainly does. Take it down, and the sooner the better.
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Old 10-09-2008, 07:11 PM
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ORIGINAL: CAelknuts

I went to report that offensive post, but see that someone beat me to it. There aren't many things that truly offend me, but that post by windog1 certainly does. Take it down, and the sooner the better.
We finally agree, totally classless and useless post, Windog1 you are a tool.[:@]
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Old 10-09-2008, 11:09 PM
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learn your enemy, we are not him....try a little more honey, not so much vinegar...
actually, many "hunters" ARE your enemy and I'll tell you how/why

everytime one of your "fellow" hunters goes offroad on his ATV he chips away at the public's perception of hunting. every "fellow" hunter who beer's it up before the hunt, trespasses, poaches, shoot before he know his target etc .... they're ALL tossed into my sport of hunting and I HATE it - you damn right I do

everytime some "hunter" buys a big bull, shoots an animal in a pen, baits with 20 tons of apples, tosses up 12' high fences etc etc .... it all reflects negatively on my sport

MY SPORT - its mine, I take ownership of it and I have no qualms about the trash we have in it and its my opinion we're long overdue to haul it out


My enemy is anyone who is anti-hunting and I'm telling you, things like what happened with Spider bull ARE anti-hunting, they're everything hunting isn't and they were done all for horn porn, doing things and trying things that while legal were all done trying to take away the things that make hunting what it IS- they're not hunting, non hunting, against hunting ..... they're anti-what hunting is


But I can't think of one thing that is lawful but yet unethical!
3 point on one side rule in Arkansas

Today a young forkhorn comes by dragging its left hind leg, heavily infected, a young buck in terrible pitiful miserable condition.

Illegal to shoot .... unethical NOT to shoot that buck and put it out of its misery.


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18" Rianbow limit in the river is the law

you gill hook and land a 17 3/4" rainbow and its a dead fish no doubt.

Illegal to keep it .... unethical to waste it because its a dead fish already, keep it and not waste the meat


I can give you quite a few more ethical vs illegal scenarios if you'd like ?


Therefore, why begrudge a guy with more money getting to the big rack .
I 100% believe it degrades my sport and hurts my future sport of hunting


If I thought it didn't negatively affect my sport I'd not care - but every non-hunter that reads or heard about Spider bull will puke and they'll hate hunters and hunting for it



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