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Wyoming's plans are equally brutal. The state classifies wolves as "predatory animals" in most of the state. GASP!!!! And here I thought that all they ate was porridge....no no no, that's bears that eat porridge...I get confused sometimes:D:D |
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Im just hoping I can get a wolf tag in MT come september:D
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That aerial gunning sure sounds like fun............................are these wack jobs for real?
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well i like all the pictures of the wolves on their site. bet wolves look great on the wall too. guess i will find out this october. :D
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I have never understood why they would introduce a predator that would deminish the money making game like elk and deer. Politicians generally vote where the $ is, but certainly not in this case.
I would love to have a full body mount of a wolf next to my fireplace! That's where I stand on this issue.;) |
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hmm.. I don't get why you would want to kill the wolves. They're good for the hunt! They kill off the weak animals from the herd, and then the ones left over have to get bigger and stronger because of it. If you kill all the wolves, you're not going to get anything good to eat in the future. Your kids will be shooting deer that look like chickens.
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ORIGINAL: meese hmm.. I don't get why you would want to kill the wolves. They're good for the hunt! They kill off the weak animals from the herd, and then the ones left over have to get bigger and stronger because of it. If you kill all the wolves, you're not going to get anything good to eat in the future. Your kids will be shooting deer that look like chickens. |
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Yesterday I witnessed elk forming a protective herd against wolf attack. I was up at the snow line on my Idaho bear hunt and doing some shed hunting as well. I sat on a great overlook and watched well over 100 elk milling all around a ridgeline and flat platues grazing. They were all scattered about and I was eagerly glassing for bulls to see if they had dropped thier antlers. It was about 3 hours before dark, and off in a distant canyon beyond the elk I heard the distinct cry of the wolf. It echoed thru the canyon and I swear every elk head turned in the direction of the howl. Immediately the elk began to gather in small herds from 10 to 50 strong, and slowly make thier way away from the wolves. I planned to sit until dark as the elk trailed out above my position, hoping to catch a glimpse of thier persuers. Looking behind meI sawdark clouds heading my direction which told me I would not get a chance this night.It was good to see that the elk herded up like that for protection, butI'm suremany will fall to predation. I can not wait for the legal hunts to be available in my hunting area. Until then, I guess I'll just have to fire off some "warning shots" ;)
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hmm.. I don't get why you would want to kill the wolves. They're good for the hunt! They kill off the weak animals from the herd, and then the ones left over have to get bigger and stronger because of it. If you kill all the wolves, you're not going to get anything good to eat in the future. Your kids will be shooting deer that look like chickens. |
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Fact is 90% of Wy's wolf population is in the "trophy area", excluding one or two packs on the reservation, and sence no season has been established you still can't shoot them there. Besides I've lived in the "predator area" for five years and have never seen a wolf in the predator area or talked to someone who has. Their's a few there but you probly won't ever see one.
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ORIGINAL: jhtrapper Besides I've lived in the "predator area" for five years and have never seen a wolf in the predator area or talked to someone who has. Their's a few there but you probly won't ever see one. |
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As someone who loves hunting, wilderness, and nature I have to say that I'm glad that we still have wolves and grizzly bears left in the lower 48. Wilderness is not wild without these animals. Elk hunting is great, but when I'm in the Bob, Great Burn, Frank Church, or wherever, knowing these animals are still around changes the feeling of being there. Let the predators take a few. They have around my area and there are still plenty of elk left. Fat, lazy roadhunters will tell you different, but they are just fat lazy roadhunters.I guesstheir "big-boy Rascal Scooters" (ATV's) scare the animals off before they arrive. Best to find areas too rough for them to get to.
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Any one that thinks wolves and bear only take the sick and the weak need to spend more time in the woods. They will take anything they can get their mouths on and seeing a pack of wolves hamstring a bull elk and then eating it while it was still alive is a true welcome to the bush. Having said that I have shot wolves but I really enjoy watching them as well. they do have a place in moderation. Man has messed with nature so much that in order to keep the balance they have to take action. In Alberta they have been airial hunting and posioning all winter in the Grande Cach area to try to give the Mountain Carabou a fight chance. It was logging and oil exploration the messed up the Caribou.
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I live & hunt in Wyoming. I plan on shooting any wolf I see in the predator area.
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MTman. I agree. I love knowing that there are still wolves and griz in the lower 48. I noticed you mentioned the Frank church! My stopping grounds. I am only 25 years old. Been in that wilderness since before I can remeber. I have seen and heard wolves in that country long before the "reintroduction" began. The problem is not that there is wolves. The problem is that the are not Indigenous! This strain of wolves is much more the our elk can handle! Maybe someday they will learn how to defend or elude themselves a little better. But I am not going to wait around and let the wolves devour our nations elk heard! Once again. go to www.saveourelk.com !!!
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ORIGINAL: caselesss5 well i like all the pictures of the wolves on their site. bet wolves look great on the wall too. guess i will find out this october. :D |
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The wolves got to be managed. And yes, that means population control.:eek: I would like to see a trapping season open up in those Western states as well as a hunting season. Nobody (well, at least most) is saying kill them all off, but decimating elk herds to let "nature take it's course" is irresponsible.
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This myth that wolves only hunt and kill "the old, weak and sick" is just that, a myth. Gray Wolves, or as they call them here in MN, Timber Wolves can and do take down anything from the fawns, does and mature bucks, especially when snows get deep and crusty. In the winters of mid-90's in those conditions they brought the whitetail pop. in NE down to the point you'd rarely see a deer inland away from Lake Superior.
In the past 7-8 years of more moderate winters and snow, deer are showing up again. But it's only a winter or two of those deep snow that make the woods the "killing fields" for the wolves again. Unlike MT, WY and ID, we've always had wolves here in NE and now most northern MN. But their numbers got so far out of whack (high), when the feds, courts and greenies stuck their noses into it and stop all controls of their population. I hope with recent de-listing that our state can once again maintain a reasonable wolf pop. which will help us avoid the wide swings in deer and moose population we have now, due to the high number of wolves. |
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ORIGINAL: MinnFinn Unlike MT, WY and ID, we've always had wolves here in NE and now most northern MN. But their numbers got so far out of whack (high), when the feds, courts and greenies stuck their noses into it and stop all controls of their population. I hope with recent de-listing that our state can once again maintain a reasonable wolf pop. which will help us avoid the wide swings in deer and moose population we have now, due to the high number of wolves. are the wolves in minnesota native? |
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As someone who has spent hundreds of days a year for 30 years in the mountains of Idaho, when I see with my own eyes what has happened to our elk it makes me want to sit and weep. They have absolutly let the wolves run out of control, in our winter grounds where you used to see elk herds in the hundreds, now you see herds of ten or less. It sounds like we will be able to hunt wolves this fall, but it is too late, and it will be decades before our herd numbers rebound. I enjoy hearing the occassional wolf in the mountains, but it has got to the point where all you see and hear are wolves, the official wolf counts are absurdly low, they are thicker than fly's in central Idaho. Now we have them all around our towns, and as much as I believe the Educated Officials that wolves don't attack people, I am not betting my childrens lives on it, so it has really affected how we as a family enjoy the outdoors together. When I was a child I explored the river valleys and woods near town with my dog and pellet rifle, which in my parents minds was enough to keep the bears and cougars at bay, but now my kids will not get to do as much of this, since wolves hunt in packs, and instead of the family dog being a protector, it is now the bait when it come to wolves. I guess our way of life holds less value to the politicians than making the missguided enviros feel like they are saving the planet by planting an invasive non native animal into an ecosystem that they have utterly descimated. I will quit rambling now, as I can spew for hours on this subject, but for all those sick and weak proponates out their, I have a machine that turns lead into gold that I will sell you on the cheap.....and the native wolves we did have, guess what ate them??
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