270 WSM on elk??
 

i have a friend who curently owns an elk/White-Tail deerfarm neer Hudson Bay Saskatchewan he previously bought a 270 WSM he is using - .Winchester Ballistic tips, Nosler Partions, nolser Accubond and he said he shot one of his bulls at 443 yardsi personally thought he was lieing but to all of you 270 WSMowners i would like to no if this would be true he said he was using Federal nosler Partions150 Grains ??/

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That would still have around 1700 lbs of KE andthat seems very reasonable especially ona broadside shot.

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So what yuor saying is that the 270 WSM is capable of doing that??

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I am sorry. That post was not clear. Yes it could kill and elk. The KE is high enough and the combination of high sectional density and the solidly constructed bullet should penetrate without a problem.

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Yes, it can. 2nd question---Would I take the shot? No, about 275 yards is about my limit. Get closer---it's called hunting, not shooting. CB

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Yes,it will kill an elk. Put the bullet where it needs to be. I took a mule deer doe at a lasered 298yds. I could of shot her at 458yds. when I first seen her. But was able to close the distance. I was using factory Winchester 150gr. Power Point ammo chronographed 3200fps. out of my gun. The 270wsm is running close to the 7mm mag. with same bullet weight.
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The damn elk live in a fence why would he shoot it at 443yards when he couldjust drive up to it with the tractor and shot it in the ear when it was eating the bale he hauled. Then he'd have the tractor for dealing with the elk...LOL;)

270wsm and 150 Nosler PT yes! Most shooter not so much! I have used the .277cal for elk and moose I limited myself to postive angle shots of no more then 300 yards. My bullet of choicewas a NoslerPT(still is when the 270win comes to camp in a back up capacity). Though I'dtry to get thetheBarnes TSX running if it was my mainstay rifle for the hunt now.

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LMAO@skeeter!!! :D

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As a 14 year old teenager I shot my first bull elk with a regular .270 win. He was a long ways off at a ranged 540-560 yards. I didn't have a laser range finder at the time, but later came back to the same spot and ranged the opening where he was standing. That was 20 years ago this comming fall, I have killed many more elk since then, but that kill (as well as my first bow killed bull) is still fresh in my mind like it was yesterday. Would I do that shot again with the same gun? I doubt it, I shot 7 times and hit the bull 5 times, I didn't even know I hit him until the final 7th shot, and thats when he collapsed and tumbled down the hill. Now on the other hand a .270 WSM is a whole lot more than the regular run of the mill .270. I agree that it is close to the 7Mag. I also believe the 270 WSM is able to kill elk out to around 500 plusyards on a regular basis provided the shooter is experienced and the gun is accurate. Is it ethical, well that anther question for anther time.

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I blew coffee all over my keyboard when I read that ROTFLMAO that was priceless

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Pardon my ignorance, but is the WSM a whole lot more? I love the WSM and own a 300WSM. I dont handload but is 200 FPS and 2 inched flater at 400 yds a whole lot?


There is something to be said about the 270 Win. Long, lean and sexy! The 270WSM is short, fat and err ... short.

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Ok, how about comparing apples to apples. The only other 270 Magnum is the 270 Weatherby, to achieve that 200-300 fps more in that cartridge your using quite a bit more powder. With that being said, I have found the best accuracy in my 270 WSM loaded at slightly better than 270 Win velocities when using standard construction bullets like the Sierra Gamekings or the Hornady interlocks. When using Nosler Accubonds or Bt's and the Hornady SST's I get moa performance at 3250-3300 fps chronographed and amazingly enough they shoot to the same point of impact. Can you hunt bigger animals with the WSM, no not really your limited to the same game, however the WSM shines with the heavier bullets over the 270 Win. I would have no reservations going on an elk or moose hunt with my 30-06 as my primary gun and the 270 WSM as my back up. My minimum load would be a 140 gr Accubond or partition, even better would be a triple shock if it gives acceptable accuracy. So bottom line are there better tools for the job, yes many but is it necessary, NO.

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Well maybe the .270 WSM isnot a whole lot more, butthen again it justmight be.From what Ihavefound, from different loads actualy shot through a crony, by myself and others who post the info online.The average is around 300 f/s faster accross the range of bullet weights for the WSM. That is with both .270's having equal 24" barrels.The problem ismost .270 win barrels are22" long compared to 23" orthe standard 24" for the WSM. So that might make the spread closer to 400 f/s withthe same bullets.Now consider this a regular 30-06 shoots a .180 grain bullet between 2700 to 2800 f/s.On the other hand a .300 Win Mag shoots the same 180 grain bullet between3000 and 3100 f/s. Again the spred is only 300 f/s between these two! But yet ask anyone off the street/gun shop, at the range or evenonline,what the difference between these two cartridges are?More than likley people will tell you that it is a huge difference and the .300 Win Mag has way morerange and power. So that is why I say the .270 WSM ismorepower and range over the regular .270 win. In actuality it might not kill an elk any more dead, but I do believe it will extend a hunters range. With a accurate .270 (regular) and a competant shooter I believethat combo will kill elk all day longat a maxrange of up to 400-450 yards. Beyond thatand I believe the .270 lacks the KE needed to bring down a elk. Sure it can be done as I proved as ateenagehunter, but man did I feel like I was shooting a BB gun when Ifound out I hit the young bull five times. Thoses 5 shots were all good chest vital hits I mightadd! Like I said I knowing what I know now Iwound not take that shot again with a regular .270.Nowon the other hand I believe theWSM 270with its 300 f/s faster bullets can and will get the job done on a elkout to 500-550 maxyards if needs be. IMO thats a whole lot more if you were to ask me.

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This is the .270 WSM with a 140 gr. Accubond starting out at 3300 f/s.

Ok I am trying to figure out how to post a ballistics table on here, if anyone has any idea please let me know.

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Standing in a pen, if you couldn't get within 100 yards, you must pretty much suck as a hunter.

My opnion is that he did it to prove a point - bragging rights.

After all - how far is it going to run when it is in a pen.

High fence / low fence - it is still a fence.

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It will work fine when the hunter does his part.

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I was thinking the same thing there skeeteer.
Why not use a .22 and not waiste so much meat?