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blackheel 03-18-2008 03:08 PM

270 and Elk
 
If you were going to hunt elk with a 270 what bullet would you use? My Dad currently shoots 150 grain Federal BTSP's and I was wondering if that bullet would be what he would want for elk?

salukipv1 03-18-2008 03:39 PM

RE: 270 and Elk
 
My dad used a .270 with 150gr federal premium nosler partitions on black bear, big black bear! spot n stalk....200yds etc....not over bait at a 200 lb cub.....

I'd recommend any premium controlled expansion bullet, so if he likes 150's get somethign nice, nosler, trophy boned bearclaw, barnes.....

I think those BTSP's might not want to penetrate, im my mind they're softer than other bullets such as noslers etc....geat for deer etc....but not so much an elk. Sure they can work/do the job, but if you get a bad angle and its your only shot of the hunt....and it gets away because of poor bullet performance ie downhill uphill, 1/4 away....you'll have to go through more bone, muscle etc...to get at those vitals.



Scott Gags 03-18-2008 04:30 PM

RE: 270 and Elk
 
If you do not reload take a look at:

http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_58&products_id=218

Double Tap Ammo has some of the highest performance production loads available. In case the link does not work the website is:

www.doubletapammo.com



Colorado Bob 03-18-2008 06:16 PM

RE: 270 and Elk
 
150 grain Nolser Partitions, it's the standard by which all others are judged. Federal has them in the "Premium" line. CB

Scott Gags 03-18-2008 06:27 PM

RE: 270 and Elk
 
The Double Tap ammo I referred to is the 150 Grain NP.

Just at a higher velocity and KE energy level.

ox1443 03-18-2008 06:49 PM

RE: 270 and Elk
 
i would use winchester 150 Grain balistic tip XP3's or the Accubond CT

bigbulls 03-18-2008 09:15 PM

RE: 270 and Elk
 
I have used 140 grain ballistic tips when they first came out though I don't reccomend them, 140 grain TBBC, 140 grain failsafe (discontinued) and 150 grain corelokts.

The only one to not exit was the TBBC but to be fair it traveled through the liver, then lungs, then broke the offside shoulder and lodged under the skin and was perfectly mushroomed. An excelent elk bullet inthe .270 or any other cartridge for that matter.

I would also take a hard look at Barnes and Winchester XP3.


RugerM77.270 03-19-2008 06:37 AM

RE: 270 and Elk
 
You want a good bonded bullet like everyone else is suggestinf. The TBBC is good as is the Partition. I personally like the Winchester XP3 it is made to take down large game and will travel through an elk like a RPG.

blackheel 03-19-2008 07:23 AM

RE: 270 and Elk
 
Thanks!

skeeter 7MM 03-19-2008 09:55 PM

RE: 270 and Elk
 

I personally like the Winchester XP3 it is made to take down large game and will travel through an elk like a RPG.
Anybody used these on game? or just what they read? I suspect since they've been out for a year now some have, just haven't seen to many average joe hunters(like most of us here)mention experiences on them above deer sized game. Just curious. Being a reloader myself not offered as a component(well at least thatI am aware of under the same name),I have not.

RugerM77.270 03-20-2008 06:27 AM

RE: 270 and Elk
 

ORIGINAL: skeeter 7MM


I personally like the Winchester XP3 it is made to take down large game and will travel through an elk like a RPG.
Anybody used these on game? or just what they read? I suspect since they've been out for a year now some have, just haven't seen to many average joe hunters(like most of us here)mention experiences on them above deer sized game. Just curious. Being a reloader myself not offered as a component(well at least thatI am aware of under the same name),I have not.
I've talked with a guy face to face who has used them and read a few dozen average joe reviews and all say if your rifle will shoot them tight they will put a fist sized hole in anything from deer, to hogs, to elk. I saw a photo of a heart shot elk that literaly had its heart blown in half.

oldelkhunter 03-20-2008 08:14 AM

RE: 270 and Elk
 
The regular Failsafe worked great on elk even with a 270 win driving it . This slightly modified version is probably a tad better aerodynamically.

Rebel Hog 03-20-2008 11:08 AM

RE: 270 and Elk
 

ORIGINAL: salukipv1

My dad used a .270 with 150gr federal premium nosler partitions

Exactly what I killed my Elk, Mullie and White Wolf with!

Buckshot 03-20-2008 11:39 AM

RE: 270 and Elk
 
I like Barnes TSX's myself, but all the bullets mentioned here will do a great job on elk.

James B 03-21-2008 08:04 AM

RE: 270 and Elk
 
The Nosler 150 Partition or Barnes TSX would be my choice. I have used the 130 Barnes X Bullets with excellent rsults.

Bear Wallow 04-14-2008 01:37 PM

RE: 270 and Elk
 
I've always used the Win. PP 150 gr. and have had great performance at close ranges.

One bull I shot at 64 yds through the lungs bullet passed through.

Second shot in lungs just a little further, the bullet was picked from the offside hide.

Another time around same yardage shoulder smashed and no recovery of bullet. Bull required a quick second shot and he was done.

I'd say great performance

ShatoDavis 04-15-2008 11:45 AM

RE: 270 and Elk
 
If "BTSP" translates to a Ballistic tip bullet I wouldn't use them. (bad personal experience)

According to my dad the plain ole 130 gr. Remington CoreLokt bullets work very well on elk. Personally I wouldn't take anythingless than 140 gr. Partitions or equivalent.

Doe Dumper 04-15-2008 03:20 PM

RE: 270 and Elk
 
Boat tail soft point

Dirt2 04-21-2008 01:59 PM

RE: 270 and Elk
 
I would definitely switch bullets. I had used 130 gr. BTSPs, more precisely Sierra Boattails. I killed one elk and several bucks with the bullet. What I discovered over time was that the bullet has a tendency to blow up into shrapnel at close range and high velocity ON DEER. I shot bucks at 35 and 25 yards, hit major bone on each shot, and the bullet blew up. Now, it killed both animals but I wonder how the same shot would have turned out on elk. My only elk kill was 350 yards, so the bullet had shed velocity by then and made for a nice one-shot kill.

Both me and my stepdad have changed over to Scirocco bonded bullets, and have now killed multiple elk with it. I got a clean pass-through on a huge cow elk last year at 90 yards.

That summarizes the data I can offer. I would lean toward the 150 gr. Nosler Partitions, in fact I am going to try the Federal Premium version this year and if they shoot well out of my rifle I may switch.

MTdream 04-21-2008 02:30 PM

RE: 270 and Elk
 

ORIGINAL: ox1443

i would use winchester 150 Grain balistic tip XP3's or the Accubond CT
you are getting close to religion for lots of folks....suffice it to say, that anything that is bonded, and not highly frangible will clearly knock a bull down...

stick with high quality proven bullets, not fad bullets and you will not be disappointed...

salukipv1 04-21-2008 02:58 PM

RE: 270 and Elk
 
Since he already uses 150grs.....that would be ideal for elk in a .270, so getting a different 150gr .270 bullet he likes shouldn't be hard, but I agree probably not the boat tail soft points, I'd want more of a premium controlled expansion type bullet for deeper penetration. If you were using a .338 on elk, I think a 250gr softpoint wouldn't be as much an issue, but in .270, I'd def say go controlled expansion premium type of bullet

700xcr 04-22-2008 07:15 AM

RE: 270 and Elk
 
Put the bullet behind the shoulder into the heart lungs and he should have no problem.


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