Why pay alot for an Outfitter?
 

I dont know why everyone pays so much for an outfitter when there is so many hunters that are willing to help other hunters out. I live in Montana and the hunting for elk, mule deer and whitetails, and antelope. I would love to sgow people where to hunt and how to get them. I have a few spotted that i keep to myself but i have tons of land that i would show you where the elk are and how to hunt them. I take off all of hunting season and have more time to help. I just this it is bull to pay 4000 for a 7 day elk hunt. If you are interested in the 2003 hunting season in Montana email me, i would love to help. I have some hunting spots with the big bulls also. I sometime have extra room in my camp, unless you are not a nice person. Anyway email me if you want to hunt elk and not pay hugh prices.WHy do i concider doing this, because maybe one day i will get the favor returned. Deadline is March 15 so you must act soon. Email me at [email protected]
Happy hunting to you all, Will
I have alot better bow hunting spots if you are looking for the big bulls.No as many bulls with a gun.

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Elksniper: Couple questions for ya. Are you swamped with emails yet? Do you have a link to your DNR(?) for season dates? Any Shiras out your way?<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> How are the odds?

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Been my experience thet the fellers thet can afford an outfitter need one. An Outfitter can provide a comfortable camp in good elk country with tame stock and expert guiding and game care. Just planning a pack in elk camp is a full time job. In Wyoming a non-resident is required to hire an outfitter or have a resident guide take him out. Thet's a good enuff reason alone. Add that to the fact that some fellers thet wanna hunt elk cain't crap in the woods 'thout gettin' their Cabelas gaters messed up, an' its plain to see thet the outfitter has an impotent role, even if its jus' keepin' the Search and Rescue guys off overtime.

BJ

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Beaver: I know you are tooting your own horn as a guide, which is ok, but to be totally accurate, I don't think the only way a non-resident can hunt in Wyoming is with a guide. As I understand it, they only need to hire a guide to hunt in wilderness areas. Public or private land that is not wilderness can be hunted without a guide. I have a friend from Montana hunts for mule deer in Wyoming every year without a guide. Correct?

Edited by - txhunter58 on 01/06/2003 20:28:24

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BJ, your WY law is totaly ludicrious! And no you DONT need an outfitter to hunt your state! I did it for almost a hole month last month. What a shame hunting in Wy has become though!

I cant wait for the day Ak goes to ALL Draw for non residents due to states like Wy's scandaling fish and game regs! What a waste of what could be a great state and I am glad there is 49 other states as my last dollar was spent there last fall!

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True, you can hunt some country 'thout a guide. Don't know why anyone would bother comin' all that way to fight with ATVs, barkin' dogs, an' trailer camps, but its possible. Outfitters get you deeper safely where you can expect more than 25% success rates on spooked animals. Outfitters provide a wilderness experience along with better odds of taking a good animal. The feller I worked for last year had an' off year, and we still filled out 85% of the clients. Now compare that to overall success rates. 25% in Wyoming last I heard. 17% in Utah. An' I ain't guidin' no more, so what I say is cause I believe it, not cause I'm tootin' anythin'!

BJ

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In order to hunt some species or some areas the law requires you to have a guide.If you want to hunt that species or area you must therefore hire an outfitter.

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The required guide thing is a great way for the local Guide and outfitters associations to featherbed some clients. These rules have always frosted me a bit.

Case in point I was a pilot in Ak for about 5 years and have brought hunters in and out of some of the roughest most remote country in the state as well as hunted some of it my self. I am no longer a resident so I need to pay some guide $10,000 to go hunt a sheep, goat, or brown bear. But some guy who moved up to Los Anchorage last year from brooklyn and has never hunted a day in his life is qualified to go hunt the Brooks range for Sheep?? And not me??? I don't get it.

The same goes for Wyoming I don't need no stinking guide to hunt a wilderness area in any darn state. It's bunch of BS. If they are really concerned about my safety then why don't they just give me a 25 question wilderness area hunting and survival test and send me on my way.And if hunter numbers are to high then institute a more restrictive lottery.But there is no way to logically defend the required guide laws.

Edited by - surestrike on 01/07/2003 22:42:21

Edited by - surestrike on 01/07/2003 22:45:56