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rtb5390 07-17-2007 03:32 PM

270 wsm for elk
 
I live in kentucky and use a .270 wsm for deer, and i have wanted to go ot west for elk. I am wondering if the 270 wsm is big enough.

game4lunch 07-17-2007 06:28 PM

RE: 270 wsm for elk
 
You may want to search the "Big Game Hunting" posts for all the responses you can stand.

This subject, "is this gun good enough for elk", has been covered . . . and then some.

Let me give you a highlight version of what you will find;

Yes, it will kill elk. It has great ballistics for long range shooting (flat).
But keep this rule of thumb in mind, I'll swear (from personal experience), that the bigger the gun, the less you've got to chase it. I'll never forget the first year I went elk hunting and used the .270 (not the magnim) and never did find the elk. Found blood, tracks, went back the next day with a dog, still haven't found that elk.
The .300 Win Mag I shoot now, will drop him/her where they stand!
Another rule of thumb . . . the smaller the caliber, the closer you need to be to your target. It's just unconciebable that guys will spend the large amounts of money to come out here with pea shooters and go home frustrated because they didn't recover their animal. Why take the risk. Get a bigger gun.

Colorado Luckydog 07-17-2007 07:22 PM

RE: 270 wsm for elk
 

ORIGINAL: game4lunch

You may want to search the "Big Game Hunting" posts for all the responses you can stand.

This subject, "is this gun good enough for elk", has been covered . . . and then some.

Let me give you a highlight version of what you will find;

Yes, it will kill elk. It has great ballistics for long range shooting (flat).
But keep this rule of thumb in mind, I'll swear (from personal experience), that the bigger the gun, the less you've got to chase it. I'll never forget the first year I went elk hunting and used the .270 (not the magnim) and never did find the elk. Found blood, tracks, went back the next day with a dog, still haven't found that elk.
The .300 Win Mag I shoot now, will drop him/her where they stand!
Another rule of thumb . . . the smaller the caliber, the closer you need to be to your target. It's just unconciebable that guys will spend the large amounts of money to come out here with pea shooters and go home frustrated because they didn't recover their animal. Why take the risk. Get a bigger gun.
Very well said!

700xcr 07-17-2007 07:39 PM

RE: 270 wsm for elk
 
Use a 140gr. or 150gr. bullet and put it in the boiler room of an elk. I will be using my Remington 700xcr in 270wsm this year for deer and elk. I know of a retired Game Warden that uses a 6.5 Remington Mag. when he is in open terrain in Eastern,Or. His hunting partner that owns the ground he hunts on uses a 270wsm.Heused it to talk elk at 300yds.Shot Placement is the key along with bullet contruction.

James B 07-17-2007 08:29 PM

RE: 270 wsm for elk
 
Since about a jillion elk have been take with the 270 Winchester, the 270 WSM should also work very well. I believe in recent polls on this site that the 270 finished very high in the preferred calibers.

stubblejumper 07-17-2007 08:46 PM

RE: 270 wsm for elk
 
Of course it will kill elk.I have seen several elk killed with the 25-06 and even the 243win,but I prefer at least a 7mm magnum myself.

SCWoodsWizard 07-17-2007 09:23 PM

RE: 270 wsm for elk
 
270 wsm just about is a 7 mag isn't it? Looks the same on a ballistics chart.

stubblejumper 07-17-2007 09:36 PM

RE: 270 wsm for elk
 

270 wsm just about is a 7 mag isn't it? Looks the same on a ballistics chart.
And a 264 win mag is just about a 270wsm.
And a 257wby is just about a 264win mag.
And a 6mm-284 is just about a 257wby mag.

At some point you have to set a limit.I choose to set mine at the 7mm remmag.

billybob1234 07-18-2007 07:08 PM

RE: 270 wsm for elk
 
RTB,

if your a good shot you can kill elk all day long a 270 wsm i believe ithas a little more horsepower than the 270 rem. my buddy uses a 270 rem with 130 grn bullets and tags out every year. just make sure you use a bonded bullet.

StillHunter90 07-19-2007 04:33 AM

RE: 270 wsm for elk
 
The 270 wsm flys faster and hits harder then a standard 270 so you should definately be ok if you listen to the recommendations on here about bullet construction and shot placement.

younggun308 07-19-2007 04:39 AM

RE: 270 wsm for elk
 
I would personally look for a .300 WSM instead of the .270 WSM, that way, you get more power, without bad recoil.

700xcr 07-19-2007 07:03 AM

RE: 270 wsm for elk
 
I believe recoil would be lighter on 270wsm then 300wsm.

younggun308 07-19-2007 08:17 AM

RE: 270 wsm for elk
 
I wasn't comparing the .270 WSM to the .300 WSM recoil, I was comparing the .300 WSM's recoil to the 30-06's, and other standard elk cartridges, like the .338 Win Mag.
From what I hear the .300 WSM kicks like a 30-06, and with a Limb-Saver recoil pad, it would become a plinker.

Josiah

McBruce 07-20-2007 09:04 AM

RE: 270 wsm for elk
 
man all I can do is sit here and smile at the threads on which gun LOL.

I already shoot a 300 win mag/ and live in colorado and elk hunt. its an awesome gun for elk.

my next rifle will be the 270 wsm. I wouldn't have an issue hunting elk with it.

but the reason I haven't bought the 270 wsm is why ( other then another toy ) cause the 300 win mag does all I want it to from deer/bear/ elk and any other big game.
oh and its a browning with the boss system on it. recoil is not bad at all.

sooo someday I'll go with the 270 wsm....when I need a new toy....it will do you fine.
if you have a 270wsm and want a new toy...go with the 300 win mag :)

throwingStarr 07-20-2007 06:07 PM

RE: 270 wsm for elk
 
.270, not a problem, my first at 180 yards, it went 45 yards over a ravene and dropped.

throwingStarr 07-20-2007 06:11 PM

RE: 270 wsm for elk
 
..using a 150 gr. Nosler Partition.

Keith Miller 07-20-2007 08:50 PM

RE: 270 wsm for elk
 
it is good enuff but it would be better with a 7mm mag

stubblejumper 07-20-2007 10:15 PM

RE: 270 wsm for elk
 

270, not a problem, my first at 180 yards, it went 45 yards over a ravene and dropped.

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Then again,a spike is a far cry from a mature bull which can weigh several hundred pounds more.

Rammer 07-23-2007 04:03 PM

RE: 270 wsm for elk
 
I don't care what you are shooting, if its a 7mm-08 (smallest I'd use on elk) up to a 375H&H, if you put it thru the boiler room with a good bullet, its dead.

Follower 08-15-2007 02:50 AM

RE: 270 wsm for elk
 
Rammers right, put the bullet in the right place, and this whole discussion is moot. I have never found anything in North America that wouldn't fall to a well placed 180 grain bullet out of my .30-06. But hit an elk in the hind quarters with a .338 and we will see how good your wind is blood trailing it into the next county. The .270 WSM with any premium higher sectional density bullet, will work great if it shoots accurately out of your rifle.

westcb11 12-01-2007 02:30 PM

RE: 270 wsm for elk
 
I have a .270 WSM winchester model 70 and I think it'll knock down an elk I shot a whitetail this year from 75 yards and It went right down right there so no problems and that was with the Vital Shok 130 grain ballistic tip it was awesome


Painted Horse 12-01-2007 02:50 PM

RE: 270 wsm for elk
 
I bought a 270WSm in 2002 when they first came out because a friend did so well shooting Moose in Alaska with his 270WSM.
I have shot numerous elk with my 270WSM, Everything form 200 to 500 yards. It's usually Bang/Flop
I use a Barnes 140g TSX over 73.5 grains of MagPro. I shot a Spike two years ago as he faced me. Bullet entered base of neck and exited just above the tail. Almost the entire length of the elks body.
The first year I had the gun prior to working up a load. I used the factory 150g bullets and shot several Cow elk.

My buddy bought one and uses factory loads and has shot several cow elka nd a nice 374 bull this fall.

I've got a 300 WSM and several 30-06 rifles and they stay in the safe since I bought my 270WSM. No need to buy another gun just to hunt elk.
Always a good reason to buy another gun. But you don't need to unless you want to.

700xcr 12-01-2007 03:31 PM

RE: 270 wsm for elk
 

ORIGINAL: Painted Horse

I bought a 270WSm in 2002 when they first came out because a friend did so well shooting Moose in Alaska with his 270WSM.
I have shot numerous elk with my 270WSM, Everything form 200 to 500 yards. It's usually Bang/Flop
I use a Barnes 140g TSX over 73.5 grains of MagPro. I shot a Spike two years ago as he faced me. Bullet entered base of neck and exited just above the tail. Almost the entire length of the elks body.
The first year I had the gun prior to working up a load. I used the factory 150g bullets and shot several Cow elk.

My buddy bought one and uses factory loads and has shot several cow elka nd a nice 374 bull this fall.

I've got a 300 WSM and several 30-06 rifles and they stay in the safe since I bought my 270WSM. No need to buy another gun just to hunt elk.
Always a good reason to buy another gun. But you don't need to unless you want to.
What factory 150gr. load and bullet you was using? I have been shooting 150gr. Winchester Power Point ammo out of my 700xcr 270wsm. It has been accurate and chronographed 3200fps. out of my gun. I haven't taken any animals with it yet. Next Sunday my doe deer tag starts. I can not wait to touch the trigger on a animal.

rbullom 12-02-2007 04:25 PM

RE: 270 wsm for elk
 
Painted Horse is right. You have a great elk rifle. Just go hunt elk with the rifle you have and bypass the chatter about which is better. Do practice at longer ranges. You elk hunt enough times and you will eventually be provided an opportunity with no option to close the distance below 300 or more yards. And the 270WSM can do its part with the right bullet if you can do your's.

bowing4bulls 12-02-2007 09:00 PM

RE: 270 wsm for elk
 
Years back people used 30-30's to hunt elk and yes theirhas probablybeen more game taken with the 30-30 then any other gun, but like everyone has said it all depends on were you put the shoot. I have seenand heard of alot ofelk lost with 270's, they work, but I'll take my 300wmag overone of the 270's any day

SILVERTIP-CO 12-03-2007 11:07 AM

RE: 270 wsm for elk
 
No. Non-res must use at least 378 Weatherby. :D:D:D


Good luck.

Painted Horse 12-03-2007 04:37 PM

RE: 270 wsm for elk
 
I bought a box of 150 Winchester Power Points and a box of 130 Winchester Supreme BT when I bought the rifle. Used them to sight in and generate brass that I could reload. I still have part of each box as I quickly worked up a load with the barnes TSX bullets.

I now use those bullets to calibrate my Chrony, Since they are factory loads and I know how fast they are supposed to be. If my chrony reads something different. I know it's set up wrong or the weather is drastically affecting the speed. Once I have a base line with the factory ammo, I can shot my reloads and know the chrony is readding fast or slow for that day.

Hiawatha 12-04-2007 08:00 AM

RE: 270 wsm for elk
 
Bringing out the poprcorn for this one again this year.

James B 12-08-2007 03:48 PM

RE: 270 wsm for elk
 
Load the 270 WSM with the 160 grain Nosler Partition and it gives up nothing to the 7 Mag.

Carpmaster 12-08-2007 03:51 PM

RE: 270 wsm for elk
 
If that is what I had I would use it....A lot of guys use a 270 Win.


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