Hunting With A .50 Caliber BMG?
#1

Forgive me if this has already been posted. I did a search and could not find anything.
So, Field & Stream published this article and I feel it makes no sense at all. Probably not a very smart thing to do.
Personally, I do not feel this is hunting, rather target practice on live animals. Irregardless if they have never lost an animal, I just don't see the need to shoot at an animal that is 800-1000 yards away.
http://www.fieldandstream.com/fieldstream/hunting/photogallery/article/0,13355,1575411,00.html
So, Field & Stream published this article and I feel it makes no sense at all. Probably not a very smart thing to do.
Personally, I do not feel this is hunting, rather target practice on live animals. Irregardless if they have never lost an animal, I just don't see the need to shoot at an animal that is 800-1000 yards away.
http://www.fieldandstream.com/fieldstream/hunting/photogallery/article/0,13355,1575411,00.html
#2
Join Date: Sep 2006
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I posted a thread on this exact topic a coupel of days ago, but others did not seem real interested. I think that a .50 BMG is a little overkill for my tastes, but to each their own.
http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=1950500
http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=1950500
#4

Long range hunting has become the craze as of late because of articles like these and other TV shows.
If yourefer The Best of the West TV show, you will see much shooting skill andlittle hunting skill. They sometimes try to take the longest shots possible without even trying to stalk the animal. Although it is sometimes amazing the shots they connect,I think the overall message being sent is that it is cool to go out and shoot at big game at 750+ yards.
Here is a scenario I saw in BOTW Promo. The first animal they shot was an elk at 743 yards across two canyons just before dark. What if he misread the wind and gut shot, or leg shot the elk. That bull could have ran for hours with no time for a fast recovery because (1) They were two canyons away (2) It was nearing dark.
Although they attach many disclaimers talking of many hours of practice with completely accurized rifles and optics to match. I think they miss the point. Hunting isn't about how far away you shoot an animal, it is how close you can get to an animal to make an ethical kill. No matter what, the chances of merely wounding an animal greatly increase the further away you are.I have heard of too many people go out thinking they have what it tkaes to make shots like that and end up filling animals full of holes because of the many variables they fail to realize likeenergy loss and actual wind speed.
Remember, the only animals they show are the quick kills, they don't show the wounded animals.
If yourefer The Best of the West TV show, you will see much shooting skill andlittle hunting skill. They sometimes try to take the longest shots possible without even trying to stalk the animal. Although it is sometimes amazing the shots they connect,I think the overall message being sent is that it is cool to go out and shoot at big game at 750+ yards.
Here is a scenario I saw in BOTW Promo. The first animal they shot was an elk at 743 yards across two canyons just before dark. What if he misread the wind and gut shot, or leg shot the elk. That bull could have ran for hours with no time for a fast recovery because (1) They were two canyons away (2) It was nearing dark.
Although they attach many disclaimers talking of many hours of practice with completely accurized rifles and optics to match. I think they miss the point. Hunting isn't about how far away you shoot an animal, it is how close you can get to an animal to make an ethical kill. No matter what, the chances of merely wounding an animal greatly increase the further away you are.I have heard of too many people go out thinking they have what it tkaes to make shots like that and end up filling animals full of holes because of the many variables they fail to realize likeenergy loss and actual wind speed.
Remember, the only animals they show are the quick kills, they don't show the wounded animals.
#5
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Beautiful Western Montana
Posts: 2,308

What 400 yards is ok, but a thousand is stupid? Those guys shoot better at 800 yards then alot of people do it 150, I say the ladder is stupid. For God sakes there are articles about people sitting in trees waiting to stick deer that arre walking down a trail, is that stupid too? I admire the long range shooters and would like to get into it myself.
#6
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: MN USA
Posts: 1,392

Justice4All, I agree with you. Sure there are a few people with the "right" equipment who practice tirelessly with it and hone their long distance shooting skills over time. They probably can get away with a very long shot. Can they do it always? I have my doubts.
Yes, anyone can screw up a 150 yds shot, if they doubt practice and use their brain, too. But multiply that X 5 and the vast majority of shots taken won't end up with a clean kill for all except those very few. It's like training to be a sniper. It's different than learning to use all your skills, shooting, stalking, knowledge of the game, patterns, etc. that's every bit as much or more a part of the hunt than just taking and making "the long shot".
Yes, anyone can screw up a 150 yds shot, if they doubt practice and use their brain, too. But multiply that X 5 and the vast majority of shots taken won't end up with a clean kill for all except those very few. It's like training to be a sniper. It's different than learning to use all your skills, shooting, stalking, knowledge of the game, patterns, etc. that's every bit as much or more a part of the hunt than just taking and making "the long shot".
#8
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: MISSOURI
Posts: 1,157

You know the only deer I have ever lost was the closest shot I have ever had. .270 at 10 yards isnt going to expand like it should. And that is exactly what happened to me. I have taken deer all the way out to 500 yards and no I dont like it but if you can do it ---- do it. I have shot the .50 bmg many times and I currently own one. It still is no cure for poor shooting. In the army we shot it at 1000 meters alot. It is very capable of that. But you have to hit what you shoot at.