I've changed me mind about wolves!!
#51
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: wisconsin
Posts: 1,061

You wont be doing much hunting if you get caught smoking a wolf-YOU THINK ABOUT THAT.I believe your statement here is true,and you mean it.So read it.Im not being turdy about it.Is your next 3-5 seasions not hunting going to be worth it?
ORIGINAL: Idaho hunter 58
My hunting future is something i take very personally. I don't care if Wisconsin is doing dandy, good for you. Idaho, Montana, Washington, Wyoming... ect, are not doing so well.
My hunting future is something i take very personally. I don't care if Wisconsin is doing dandy, good for you. Idaho, Montana, Washington, Wyoming... ect, are not doing so well.
#52

Is your next 3-5 seasions not hunting going to be worth it?
#53
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: wisconsin
Posts: 1,061

You should take the future of our youth as passionately as your hunting.How about starting a vigilante group and start shooting crack dealers.
ORIGINAL: Phil from Maine
No it is not the 3-5 years it is a lifetime as shoot an andangered animal is a fellony. But if no one knows or sees you so be it. Here in Maine the tree huggers and all the other groups have teamed up with a law suite to try and stop trapping because a couple of lynx get caught once a year by trappers. This has caused the state to abandon it's predator control programs and is costing alot of $$$$ to keep trapping going on. With the numbers of coyotes taking down our deer herd this is doing no good for us. The coyotes have also taken down some small live stock and we can not emagine what the heck wolves would do for us here. I have to agree there is no such thing as a good wolve unless it has been burried.
Is your next 3-5 seasions not hunting going to be worth it?
#54

That was my next point to these guys here that really don't see the big picture.
A scenario......... You go out and shoot a wolf while it is stillprotected under the ESA. Some tree hugger just happens to see you do it and reports it to the authorities. You get charged, spend the nextfew yearsdefending yourself in court and thousands upon thousandsof dollars to boot. You are found guilty becasue of the damaging video the tree hugger produced to authorities. Now you are made to pay thousands more in fines, spend a few years in jail, and loose your hunting privelages for the rest of your life. You don't get to hunt, your kids don't get to huntetc... etc...
Oh, and to top it all off you also get to hand over all of your firearms to authroities because you are now a convicted fellon and can never purchase firearms any time in the future.
Don't think it can happen to you? Ask the people that get struck by lightning every year if they thought it would ever happen to them.
What a heck of a way to look out for your, your childrens, and"OUR" hunting futures. Thanks but no thanks! Leave me out of your "OUR". The year is 2007, not 1800. Things don't work like they did 200 years ago.
Join SCI, RMEF, or any other wealthy orginization pushing to delsit the wolf.
A scenario......... You go out and shoot a wolf while it is stillprotected under the ESA. Some tree hugger just happens to see you do it and reports it to the authorities. You get charged, spend the nextfew yearsdefending yourself in court and thousands upon thousandsof dollars to boot. You are found guilty becasue of the damaging video the tree hugger produced to authorities. Now you are made to pay thousands more in fines, spend a few years in jail, and loose your hunting privelages for the rest of your life. You don't get to hunt, your kids don't get to huntetc... etc...
Oh, and to top it all off you also get to hand over all of your firearms to authroities because you are now a convicted fellon and can never purchase firearms any time in the future.
Don't think it can happen to you? Ask the people that get struck by lightning every year if they thought it would ever happen to them.
What a heck of a way to look out for your, your childrens, and"OUR" hunting futures. Thanks but no thanks! Leave me out of your "OUR". The year is 2007, not 1800. Things don't work like they did 200 years ago.
Join SCI, RMEF, or any other wealthy orginization pushing to delsit the wolf.
#58

That was my next point to these guys here that really don't see the big picture.

#60

We see the big picture alright and if you are so bound and determined to have wolves take them and let them loose in the big city parks. There is alot of wildlife there for them.

I think that if managed properly (which is definetly not being done) the wolf canco-exist in specific places in the lower 48. I am 100% all for the delisting of the wolf but I sure as heck don't see smaller deer and elk heards as something for me to risk thousands of dollars, jail time, never being able to posess a firearm again, and never being able to hunt again.
My argument with the folks here is thatattempting to wipethem out again is definetly not what needs to happen. Any time you "wipe out" a species of animal, plant, etc... there will always be some special intrest group on the other side of the fence iching to protect them and reintroduce them.
The wolf is not going to go away at this point. They need to quit making emotional decisions and actually think about how to best lessen the effects of this wolf reintroduction.
Killing them off, or trying to, will do nothing but make hunters look bad, land them in jail, and prolong anything remotely close to being able to legally kill them.