I've changed me mind about wolves!!
01-10-2007, 12:50 PM
#41
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: wisconsin
Posts: 1,061
RE: I've changed me mind about wolves!!
Not to defend the wolf at all,but that deer looks tore up in the first picture.Even if the wolf did make the inital wound(not a truck) how did anyone think it should look.Nature is cruel,kill and eat or starve.Thats one of the leggs we as hunters can stand on anduse to explain to tree huggers,that hunting is more humane,and faster.
01-10-2007, 02:33 PM
#42
Join Date: Dec 2003
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Posts: 1,063
RE: I've changed me mind about wolves!!
BB you're driving me insaine. Everyone here needs to understand a few things, it's really simple, i think all the thick headed idiots can understand too.
Many states once had "timber wolves", much smaller than their canadian grey cousins. About the same effect as having a few coyotes running around.
The grey wolf was thrown illegally apon us. Planted, dumped, take your pick.
They havedecimated elk herds in every state they were dumped on. Look up the numbers i am not going to waste my time doing it for you.
The grey wolf has no place here, and was thrown here. Illegally dumped! I don't see a promblem with removing them by any means, legal or illegal, because they themselves have to reason to be here.
Yes we will never most likely be completely rid of them, but that doesn't mean wecan't knock them down as much as possible to reduce their effect on our elk and deer population and hunting as we know it.
You are not a hunter, and have no defensive feelings towardsyour hunting future. My hunting future. Your kids hunting future.
Just because something is legal or illegal doesn't make it right or ethical. Sometimes you have to step to one side of the line or the other, depending on how important that thing is to you.
For myself, and the other real hunters who are invested in OUR hunting future,we have made that choice.
Many states once had "timber wolves", much smaller than their canadian grey cousins. About the same effect as having a few coyotes running around.
The grey wolf was thrown illegally apon us. Planted, dumped, take your pick.
They havedecimated elk herds in every state they were dumped on. Look up the numbers i am not going to waste my time doing it for you.
The grey wolf has no place here, and was thrown here. Illegally dumped! I don't see a promblem with removing them by any means, legal or illegal, because they themselves have to reason to be here.
Yes we will never most likely be completely rid of them, but that doesn't mean wecan't knock them down as much as possible to reduce their effect on our elk and deer population and hunting as we know it.
You are not a hunter, and have no defensive feelings towardsyour hunting future. My hunting future. Your kids hunting future.
Just because something is legal or illegal doesn't make it right or ethical. Sometimes you have to step to one side of the line or the other, depending on how important that thing is to you.
For myself, and the other real hunters who are invested in OUR hunting future,we have made that choice.
01-10-2007, 03:09 PM
#43
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 10,679
RE: I've changed me mind about wolves!!
The grey wolf was thrown illegally apon us. Planted, dumped, take your pick.
They havedecimated elk herds in every state they were dumped on. Look up the numbers i am not going to waste my time doing it for you.
The grey wolf has no place here, and was thrown here. Illegally dumped! I don't see a promblem with removing them by any means, legal or illegal, because they themselves have to reason to be here.
Yes we will never most likely be completely rid of them, but that doesn't mean wecan't knock them down as much as possible to reduce their effect on our elk and deer population and hunting as we know it
They havedecimated elk herds in every state they were dumped on. Look up the numbers i am not going to waste my time doing it for you.
The grey wolf has no place here, and was thrown here. Illegally dumped! I don't see a promblem with removing them by any means, legal or illegal, because they themselves have to reason to be here.
Yes we will never most likely be completely rid of them, but that doesn't mean wecan't knock them down as much as possible to reduce their effect on our elk and deer population and hunting as we know it
You are not a hunter, and have no defensive feelings towardsyour hunting future. My hunting future. Your kids hunting future.
Poach if you like but I won't.
As long as you keep "knocking them down" they will stay listed as endangered in the lower 48.
01-10-2007, 07:09 PM
#46
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location:
Posts: 1,063
RE: I've changed me mind about wolves!!
ORIGINAL: tangozulu
The grey wolf of southern BC is no different than the wolf in Idaho. He just went for a walk. Same wolf different day.
The grey wolf of southern BC is no different than the wolf in Idaho. He just went for a walk. Same wolf different day.
And BB you can do what you want, I don't care.
Oh, and de-listing is a joke, by the time that happens it will be too late.Youreally are thick headed idiot if that's what you are waiting for.
01-10-2007, 07:44 PM
#47
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 266
RE: I've changed me mind about wolves!!
geesh you guys are taking this personally. relax a bit.
coming across as very childish.
From my personal experience here, as stated previously by a fellow wisconsinian, who also is seeing tremendous wolf increases, herds aren't really being effected too bad. Wisconsin is seeing growth with TIMBERWOLF numbers, and im sure we are getting some of that canadian Grey wolf as well.
This appears to not be a nationwide epidemic that is worthy of getting so worked up against.
but if you are concerned, do what shato is saying and take legal action by supporting organizations like SCI, instead of getting so frustrated that name calling results.
coming across as very childish.
From my personal experience here, as stated previously by a fellow wisconsinian, who also is seeing tremendous wolf increases, herds aren't really being effected too bad. Wisconsin is seeing growth with TIMBERWOLF numbers, and im sure we are getting some of that canadian Grey wolf as well.
This appears to not be a nationwide epidemic that is worthy of getting so worked up against.
but if you are concerned, do what shato is saying and take legal action by supporting organizations like SCI, instead of getting so frustrated that name calling results.
01-10-2007, 08:06 PM
#49
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Beautiful Western Montana
Posts: 2,308
RE: I've changed me mind about wolves!!
ORIGINAL: pdoughertyMU
geesh you guys are taking this personally. relax a bit.
coming across as very childish.
From my personal experience here, as stated previously by a fellow wisconsinian, who also is seeing tremendous wolf increases, herds aren't really being effected too bad. Wisconsin is seeing growth with TIMBERWOLF numbers, and im sure we are getting some of that canadian Grey wolf as well.
This appears to not be a nationwide epidemic that is worthy of getting so worked up against.
but if you are concerned, do what shato is saying and take legal action by supporting organizations like SCI, instead of getting so frustrated that name calling results.
geesh you guys are taking this personally. relax a bit.
coming across as very childish.
From my personal experience here, as stated previously by a fellow wisconsinian, who also is seeing tremendous wolf increases, herds aren't really being effected too bad. Wisconsin is seeing growth with TIMBERWOLF numbers, and im sure we are getting some of that canadian Grey wolf as well.
This appears to not be a nationwide epidemic that is worthy of getting so worked up against.
but if you are concerned, do what shato is saying and take legal action by supporting organizations like SCI, instead of getting so frustrated that name calling results.