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Readyfireaim 12-26-2006 12:54 AM

.223
 
Hi, I'm new to this forum. Just moved from Wisconsin to Ca. Bummer! But I've heard that there are places I can hunt elk in Ca.

I'm wondering if anyone else out there uses .223 for elk, and if it's legal in Ca.?

Chantecler111 12-26-2006 12:57 AM

RE: .223
 
.223 for elk? That is an oxy moron, the .223 isn't even suitable for deer sized game, let alone the much bigger and more muscular elk, I hope you are joking, because if you arn't you need to do some research. I would prefer a .300 or .338 magnum for elk hunting.

Readyfireaim 12-26-2006 01:23 AM

RE: .223
 
Im not joking, and I know it might sound a little unorthodox, butI just try to getas close as I can and take head shots. My family owns property in colorado, and I have a lot of practice with precisionshooting with a .223.

Chantecler111 12-26-2006 01:31 AM

RE: .223
 
In that case, its definently possible, but, you should consider maybe getting another, more powerful rifle more suited to elk hunting.

Readyfireaim 12-26-2006 01:40 AM

RE: .223
 
I have tried using a high powered rifle, but it is not as exciting as being able to take an elk with a well placed head shot and iron sights.

Chantecler111 12-26-2006 01:42 AM

RE: .223
 
Well, while it may not be recommended, you can kill pretty much any game on the planet, with a .223 in the brain, however, I am not sure as to the legality of what you are wanting to do, go to the CA game & fish website, you should be able to find rules and regs there.

Chantecler111 12-26-2006 01:47 AM

RE: .223
 
I do gotta ask, who are those retards in your profile pic?:D

Readyfireaim 12-26-2006 01:50 AM

RE: .223
 
people make fun of me cause im from WI, it's just a funny pic I found about where im from.

Chantecler111 12-26-2006 01:52 AM

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ORIGINAL: Readyfireaim

people make fun of me cause im from WI, it's just a funny pic I found about where im from.
Yeah, I get that crap too, because I'm from Arkansas, you get used to it after awhile.

BrutalAttack 12-26-2006 08:37 AM

RE: .223
 

ORIGINAL: Readyfireaim

Hi, I'm new to this forum. Just moved from Wisconsin to Ca. Bummer! But I've heard that there are places I can hunt elk in Ca.

I'm wondering if anyone else out there uses .223 for elk, and if it's legal in Ca.?
Please see this topic.

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=1886248

Kids, let this person be a lesson to you. Never marry your first cousin. And that is illegal in CA.

wyotimberghost 12-27-2006 01:14 AM

RE: .223
 
If you want to get close a make a well-placed shot, just get a bow.

muley69 12-27-2006 01:33 AM

RE: .223
 
I swear this is getting so old. I am to a point where I can hardly take coming on here because of these same old post.[:@]

game4lunch 12-27-2006 08:38 AM

RE: .223
 
I agree muley69!

First of all readyfireaim . . . It SHOULD BE "ready . . .aim . . .fire!"

You have to aim before you fire! My advice to you . . . save all the hunting money and go buy yourself a side of beef. You can't hunt big game anywhere with .223.
Elk in Calif.? Yeah, but you have property in Colo.? Hunt elk there. Calif elk are Roosevelt and getting a license if you could find permission to hunt, would be extremely hard to draw (I suspect). My uncle was the last person I know to live and hunt in CA and he had trouble getting a deer license much less find somewhere to hunt them.

I don't know why I'm even responding . . .

Crittergiter 12-27-2006 09:18 AM

RE: .223
 
At first I thought this was a joke. Or at least should be.

First off, a .223 is not a legal calibre for elk ANYWHERE!

Unfortunately it is legal for deer in many states Nebraska and Texas I know for sure

do as game4lunch suggests

ipscshooter 12-27-2006 10:16 AM

RE: .223
 

ORIGINAL: game4lunch

You can't hunt big game anywhere with .223.


ORIGINAL: Crittergitter

First off, a .223 is not a legal calibre for elk ANYWHERE!
Not true.

.223 is legal for any game in Texas. Probably other states as well. The only restriction here is :

White-tailed deer, mule deer, desert bighorn sheep, and pronghorn antelope may NOT be hunted with rimfire ammunition of any caliber.
Elk, in Texas, are classified as an "exotic" species, which is non-native game that has been introduced from elsewhere. Others in this category include blackbuck, nilgai, red stag, gemsbok, oryx, etc., etc. There are NO regulations as to the firearms that can be used on exotic species, so LEGALLY, you could even use a .22 short. Obviously, this is not a MORAL or ETHICAL choice, and the ranches where these game might be hunted will have some say as to what cartridges can be used on their ranches.


Also, under California law, I think they have the same rule for big game. The only restriction is it must be a centerfire cartridge with an expanding bullet. Here's a quote from their fish & game site:


ยง353. Methods Authorized for Taking Big Game.
(a) Except for the provisions of subsections 353(b) through (g), title 14, CCR, big game (as defined by section 350, title 14, CCR) may only be taken by rifles using centerfire cartridges with softnose or expanding bullets; bow and arrow (see section 354, title 14, CCR, for archery equipment regulations); or wheellock, matchlock, flintlock or percussion type, including "in-line" muzzleloading rifles using black powder or equivalent black powder substitute, including pellets, with single ball or bullet loaded from the muzzle and at least .40 caliber in designation.

jasuz61 12-27-2006 10:28 AM

RE: .223
 

ORIGINAL: Readyfireaim

people make fun of me cause im from WI, it's just a funny pic I found about where im from.
Admit it dude, you are the one on the left.

game4lunch 12-27-2006 10:31 AM

RE: .223
 
Yeah, and that's his brother Darrel, and his other brother Darrel!

Crittergiter 12-28-2006 08:13 AM

RE: .223
 
Elk, in Texas, are classified as an "exotic" species, which is non-native game that has been introduced from elsewhere. Others in this category include blackbuck, nilgai, red stag, gemsbok, oryx, etc., etc. There are NO regulations as to the firearms that can be used on exotic species, so LEGALLY, you could even use a .22 short. Obviously, this is not a MORAL or ETHICAL choice, and the ranches where these game might be hunted will have some say as to what cartridges can be used on their ranches.[/quote]
[/quote]

Well, my bad.

Thanks for the info. but like you point out "Obviously, this is not a MORAL or ETHICAL choice"

ipscshooter 12-28-2006 01:46 PM

RE: .223
 

ORIGINAL: Crittergiter

Well, my bad.

Thanks for the info. but like you point out "Obviously, this is not a MORAL or ETHICAL choice"
I think a lot of folks would be surprised at the number of states that allow using a .223 for big game animals.

hillbillyhunter1 12-28-2006 02:59 PM

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I am assuming that this post is a joke and also want to say that I laughed my Arse off at your signature line as well as your name there ready..fire..aim---that is too funny. Let us know when you'reREALLY serious.:)


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