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RE: Wolves: Tell Me Again Why It Was A Good Idea.....
The point is your mentality toward the wolf and wanting to kill them off so that you can have elk, deer, etc... all to yourself is exactly the same reason they were killed off to begin with and exactly the same reason that we are even talking about this now.
Man leaving nothing in nature is exactly what you are talking about when you talk about the wolf. It begins with one animal and picks up steam from there. You specifically stated that this isn't a place for the wolf any more becasue of the way man has encroached on wildlife with its roads, bridges, etc.... Eventually man will have encroached enough on wildlife to the point that all animals will become a nusance. Given the technology that will be available in the future there will be no need for any of wildlife to exist any more. We will simply need to move foward and accept that. It starts with people like you. I have a hard time understanding how I am being vain although I can completely see the selfishness behind your comments. Yes the animals are still here but they woudn't be if people like Rosevelt hadn't stepped in and done something about people such as yourself. Instead we would be looking at pictures of the wonderful animals that used to roam this land and looking at stuffed specimens in museums. That's basically where your way of thinking would have lead us not so long ago. Those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. I suggest that you learn from the mistakes that your forefathers made concerning the killing off of wildlife. If you can't see the big picture and the reason for wolves to exist in nature then nothing I can say will change your mine. It's a sad sad world you must live in and you have not given any good reson for the wolves not to be reintroduced in a responsible manner. |
RE: Wolves: Tell Me Again Why It Was A Good Idea.....
I've been hunting in CO, same area, since 1970 or so. In the time that wolves have begun being seen in that area, there has been a marked decrease in the numbers of elk and deer we have seen. Anecdotal evidence probably, but ask the locals and they will tell you differently about what happens to their animals...sheep and cattle...when a pack moves in.
What bugs me almost as much is the attitude of local CDOW folks. I questioned a warden several years ago about wolves. He told me I was wrong, there aren't any wolves in that area. I asked him if it was ok to have shot that really big coyote I saw.He didn't think that was too funny. I saw my first CO wolf in 1985 while trying my luck at coyote calling on the ranch of a friend.It wasn't long after that when I began seeing more tracks during hunting season. |
RE: Wolves: Tell Me Again Why It Was A Good Idea.....
"...you have not given any good reason for the wolves not to be reintroduced in a responsible manner."
Reasons? 1) They were never biologically endangered in the first place. 2) They were reintroduced based on lies and nebulus statistics. 3) Nothing the feds have ever done concerning wolves has ever showed anything resembling responsible. 4) Its a mistake to think the reintroduction of wolves was even about wolves or elk. |
RE: Wolves: Tell Me Again Why It Was A Good Idea.....
Its obvious there are too many elk, deer etc in some areas. They have been kept that way by feeding programs and the irradication of preditors.
Maybe your average Wyoming elk is just another farmed animal. |
RE: Wolves: Tell Me Again Why It Was A Good Idea.....
Maybe your average Wyoming elk is just another farmed animal.  |
RE: Wolves: Tell Me Again Why It Was A Good Idea.....
I begining to think all those Maine moose must be farm raised like the elk out there. Those stupid farm raised animals like to run around in the road so that people will be killed when they run into them!! Get real the wolves time is not today. If it is why haven't you let them lose in the cities? Those cities were once part of the wolves range years ago. Besides they
might catch pidgeons in the park and you could here them howl at night.:)At least they would be protected easier and you might be able to see one. I say we need to keep the wolves in the history books. But, I'm glad we do not have wolves here cause only 2 were shot and those poor folks had to pay for it. And we are still told none here yet so keep them out of here and put them in the cities first. |
RE: Wolves: Tell Me Again Why It Was A Good Idea.....
Maybe they should be reintroduced in D.C.;). They could compete with the Sharks.
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RE: Wolves: Tell Me Again Why It Was A Good Idea.....
ORIGINAL: bigbulls The point is your mentality toward the wolf and wanting to kill them off so that you can have elk, deer, etc... all to yourself is exactly the same reason they were killed off to begin with and exactly the same reason that we are even talking about this now. Man leaving nothing in nature is exactly what you are talking about when you talk about the wolf. It begins with one animal and picks up steam from there. You specifically stated that this isn't a place for the wolf any more becasue of the way man has encroached on wildlife with its roads, bridges, etc.... Eventually man will have encroached enough on wildlife to the point that all animals will become a nusance. Given the technology that will be available in the future there will be no need for any of wildlife to exist any more. We will simply need to move foward and accept that. It starts with people like you. I have a hard time understanding how I am being vain although I can completely see the selfishness behind your comments. Yes the animals are still here but they woudn't be if people like Rosevelt hadn't stepped in and done something about people such as yourself. Instead we would be looking at pictures of the wonderful animals that used to roam this land and looking at stuffed specimens in museums. That's basically where your way of thinking would have lead us not so long ago. Those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. I suggest that you learn from the mistakes that your forefathers made concerning the killing off of wildlife. If you can't see the big picture and the reason for wolves to exist in nature then nothing I can say will change your mine. It's a sad sad world you must live in and you have not given any good reson for the wolves not to be reintroduced in a responsible manner. |
RE: Wolves: Tell Me Again Why It Was A Good Idea.....
S.S.S.
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RE: Wolves: Tell Me Again Why It Was A Good Idea.....
I'll second SSS
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