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mshunter22 02-27-2006 10:26 AM

Colorado 1st Timer - Help!
 
I will be making my first trip out west this year for an elk/bear hunt in Colorado Unit 62 Uncompagre National Forest. Has anyone hunted here before? Any tips/suggestions for thisarea imparticular or just tips on hunting out west for a first timer. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!

Hunter_59 02-27-2006 02:36 PM

RE: Colorado 1st Timer - Help!
 
mshunter22, I'm not sure where you're from but if you are a flatlander like myself, spend the entire summer jogging and getting in the best shape of your life! The Rockieswill test the stamina of the most fit hunters. If you want to enjoy the hunt, get in shape.

I've included a link to the Colorado Division of Wildlife in case you don't have it. This link will takeyou directly to theGame Management Unit Maps. Spend some time"scouting" from home and it may pay off when you head out west. Good Luck!

http://wildlife.state.co.us/Hunting/GMUnitMaps.htm

EricH4964 02-28-2006 05:28 PM

RE: Colorado 1st Timer - Help!
 
mshunter22,

I am planning on heading out to CO myself to elk hunt this Fall with bow and arrow. Are you rifle or bow hunting? When are you going and are you using an outfitter/guide or hunting public land? I have a couple of buddies who are going to be going with me and we are trying to decide on where to go. Initial plans are for NW CO, but I am just now getting into the research. Also, are you hunting with over the counter tags or are you putting in for a draw?


txhunter58 02-28-2006 08:23 PM

RE: Colorado 1st Timer - Help!
 
Do lots of scouting and find the nastiest, deepest, steepest area to go into. Unit 62 is the most heavily hunted unit in Colorado. See this link:
http://wildlife.state.co.us/NR/rdonl...BD5A/0/Elk.pdf
There were over 6600 elk hunters in 2004 (last harvest statistics)

mshunter22 03-04-2006 01:22 PM

RE: Colorado 1st Timer - Help!
 
Eric, I will be taking my rifle but would rather have the bow. I am going with my dad and he doesnt bowhunt so that eliminates that option. We are putting in for tags for 1st rifle season, but it we dont draw we will go OTC for 2nd rifle season. We are hunting in the Natnl Forest/BLM land. All of the research required to figure this process out is enough to make your head spin. Have you been out before?

EricH4964 03-19-2006 05:41 PM

RE: Colorado 1st Timer - Help!
 
mshunter-

Sorry for the delay, been busy with work and gone a lot recertifying my dog. Anyway, I've never been hunting out west before so it is all going to be new to me. I've read about it all my life and watched plenty of videos, have some good friends from the Marines who are from WY and have racked their brains for knowledge. Hopefully it will work out. After doing our research and finding a spot, we are going to pack in and see how it goes. Hopefully we will see an elk or two.

It should be an easy hunt, you see them on TV and they are as dumb as cattle...LOL, like I really believe that.

Elkfreak 03-21-2006 02:23 PM

RE: Colorado 1st Timer - Help!
 
MS hunter,

I am a local and hunt in the North West part of the state. If I could give you any advice about hunting elk here in CO, it would be to make sure you know how to cow call. Get up high in the mornings chirp and listen. Make sure you have the wind right. Always. The elk are usually heading up to bed in the mornings. They will be coming down to water at night. Watch the thermals, they will blow your hunt. Good luck.

95Harley 04-12-2006 11:41 AM

RE: Colorado 1st Timer - Help!
 
OK, glad to see this post. I was recently invited to join some of my family on a Sept. Muzzleloader hunt in CO Area's 71 & 74.

I'm an east coast hunter, hunting in both WV and MD. And I have no idea what to expect on this hunt. I was told expect a 4 mile hike in every morning, but thats about all I know.

Any pointers from blackpowder shooters. I plan on using a 50 cal Rem ML700 but I'm not sure how heavy to load for Elk. Most likely I will only get a cow tag this year, but I'm trying for a Mullie Tag as well.

If I get no responses, I'll start a new post. But thought I'd try to ride this one first.

Thanks for any info.

willhunt4food 04-12-2006 12:14 PM

RE: Colorado 1st Timer - Help!
 
95Harley,
As far as the load, shoot what ever your gun likes but remember that colorado allows only loose powder (no pellets), no scopes and no sabots. Get in great shape and then start working out harder. Remember if you hike 4 miles in and kill something you have about 3 pack trips out. That's 24 miles if you're successful on the first morning... I hope you have friends and maybe some pack stock.
MSHunter,
Unit 62 gets a ton of pressure. Its not as high as lots of units but the canyons seem to make up for it.
You guys have a great time and enjoy the time in the woods...
Will

fillae 04-12-2006 03:37 PM

RE: Colorado 1st Timer - Help!
 
95Harley,

Check out the Black Powder forum. There are some very knowledgable people there that have helped me figure out an elk load. I'm a local, but this fall will be my first ML hunt. I'm using 410gr Great Plains conicals with 100gr 777 powder out of a .50 Omega. So far that load is working good at the range.


mshunter22,

Good luck on your hunt. CO hunting is very different from flatland hunting. I grew up in MO and still hunt whitetail there every fall. Hunting Elk is much different. Get in shape and bring plenty of water. Learn how to use a mouth call (check out the videos by ElkNut). The most important advice I can give is be flexible. You can scout all you want, but if the elk are not in your vicinity, be ready to move to where they are.

smokechaser 04-12-2006 07:52 PM

RE: Colorado 1st Timer - Help!
 
Good luck with your hunt. Ive been hunting in montana for getting close to ten years(almost 15 if you count the years i couldnt pack a rifle) and my biggest piece of advice is to be in the best shape you can. These rocky mountains are steep and rugged. getting hurt or lost can turn into a really bad situation in a hurry. And do a lot of scouting. and not just checking out a lot of areas but try and get some locals to talk to you. im sure a lot of locals arent going to want to give you a lot of info about there area and be carefull of wat you beleive when they talk to you. but especially elk do a lot of moving and knowing wats gonna make them move and where they will move to is a critical piece of information cuz in some circumstances they will move a long ways in a short period of time.

willhunt4food 04-12-2006 08:42 PM

RE: Colorado 1st Timer - Help!
 
And get some good boots! When I first started hunting out here I used the same boots that I hunted whitetails in. Whitetail hunting is a much more sedentary sport and boots are designed more to prevent cold feet. I really had some big blisters the first few years I hunted because I didn't know what good boots were like.
You're probabably going to cover a good bit of ground so I'd go get a good pair of waterproof, breathable hiking boots that fit right.

EricH4964 04-16-2006 11:46 PM

RE: Colorado 1st Timer - Help!
 
Any suggestions on make/model of boots?

elkbane 04-17-2006 12:17 AM

RE: Colorado 1st Timer - Help!
 
you really can't go wrong with a pair of Danners

EricH4964 04-17-2006 01:07 AM

RE: Colorado 1st Timer - Help!
 
Thanks elkbane.

RyanH 04-17-2006 09:55 AM

RE: Colorado 1st Timer - Help!
 
Filson makes the best boots on the market but they will run you about 350 bucks:(

EricH4964 04-17-2006 01:58 PM

RE: Colorado 1st Timer - Help!
 
RyanH - Thanks.

E

AlaskaMagnum 04-17-2006 11:03 PM

RE: Colorado 1st Timer - Help!
 
Danners are okay, but most of the sheep hunters up here use Meindl's or Lowa's, or the plastic boots if your feet can stand them (mine can't). Meindl's or the Lowas are an all day hunting boot in rough country. They are tough, sure footed, and extremely waterproof.

I have hunted out west my whole life. Colorado, New Mexico, Wyoming, and now Alaska. The one thing that will separate who gets the game from who does not is physical ability and equipment.

Get in the best shape of your life. Hunting off the road is NOT going to do you much good 95% of the time. You need to put some miles between you and the other hunters. I have found that about four to six miles in gets you away from the road hunters but also keeps you out of the outfitters hair who go in deeper.

Get a really good frame pack. You want to have a remote camp and have a freighter to haul quarters out on your back.

Get a good lightweight stove and a tent. Your goal on a five day hunt is to bring in no more than 40 lbs. Pack accordingly.

Be prepared mentally. If you spike camp it, it is tough. Food is bad, pumping water sucks. A lightweight pad provides little comfort from the ground, and lightweight sleeping bags usually sleep cold. Big game hunting out west is brutal, but it is suppossed to be. But....it is all worth it when you come packing that last load of meat out on your back.




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