deer meadow outfitters
05-24-2014, 05:59 AM
#101
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Allegan, MI
Posts: 8,019
***You got that right and they'll probably think MORE than twice!!!
06-03-2014, 03:54 AM
#102
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Allegan, MI
Posts: 8,019
Real Estate in Maine
hello all guys,
my father is doing the hunting and last year he hunted the outfitter and he is not honest. After read your forum i got the new information.specially i like your this site because very well written content with nice comments. excellent!!! great job. looking forward to see more. keep it up for the great work.
thanks
hello all guys,
my father is doing the hunting and last year he hunted the outfitter and he is not honest. After read your forum i got the new information.specially i like your this site because very well written content with nice comments. excellent!!! great job. looking forward to see more. keep it up for the great work.
thanks
***This looks like a Spammer to me with the real estate link above before he even posts in broken English! What do other members think about this one?
09-23-2023, 05:57 PM
#106
Spike
Join Date: Sep 2023
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 2
Another bad experience with Deer Meadows
After reading the reviews here, I feel I need to share my personal experience with Scott and Deer Meadows as well. My review below was mostly discussed directly with Scott before I left, I wanted to be fair to his perspectives. I can summarize the below to say, my experience was pretty poor due to a lack of preparation by Deer Meadows, inexperienced guides, inability to take action under bad weather and a focus on ensuring success for the more valued wealthy clients. If you would like details, I’ve provided below. For anyone considering a hunt with Deer Meadows, I would seriously consider our experience and consider something else. I’m not saying you can’t have success, but for the money you are spending you will be better served to keep looking.
Definitely true what the other reviews say, if you’re one of his rich repeat clients, you will have a great time. Repeat customers get the first choices.
New people get brand new guides. My guide, guides 3 wks a yr with DM and was in his second season. He had about as much clue as I did on how to mule deer hunt. He had no binoculars and was using a long range camera as his spotting scope. Maybe somebody is skilled enough to do that, but 90% of the limited deer we saw, were spotted by me. He was a really nice guy, but not the skill level I had expected for a trip this price. He will be a great guide with some experience. His notes as we learned were copious and when he guides next in this area, he’ll be waaay more knowledgeable. Scott’s justification was that he can’t find enough people to guide, but for a client laying this kind of money, it’s his job to find a better solution than a poor experience.
The quote of 80%-90% opportunity rate at 40 yds or less isn’t in any way true.
The pre-scouting was limited to some night time pics of two bucks on 5,000 acres. Guide had little to no prep of the area we were headed to. He had never guided the area and no additional intel on deer patterns in the area. For a trip of this caliber, I would have expected a knowledge of patterns and pre-planned areas for hunting based on previous scouting. Night time pics at feed buckets is inventory, not scouting.
The hunting conditions were tough while we were out, hot and little to no wind. This is still a hunting trip and I expected to work for it. However, when the entire group (5 hunters in camp) were struggling to find deer and specifically bucks, there was no action taken by the DM team to help locate animals. No work to put additional scouts in the field and locate animals, no urgency on checking game cameras. Scott did go check cameras, but didn’t bother to look at or share what he saw until AFTER the next hunt. There was plenty of time to view the photos before the next hunt. I will say, late in the week he did allow us to move areas, but the guides were now starting over with an even more blank slate. The guides had never even visited the areas…..
What DID happen is a hunter on a “management deer” hunt bumped a hit-list deer and Scott’s repeat client was moved INTO ANOTHER HUNTER’S AREA to harvest the hit-list buck. Despite the target list buck traveling with other potential shootable deer, client was moved to a different part of the property to make way for Scott’s more valued repeat client. Who was successful. It got even better when my guide told me about another instance from the last few weeks where a hit list buck was seen but not pursued because “that buck is bought and paid for buy another client.” Another example of, if you are wealthy enough, you’ll have the best experience at Deer Meadows.
Overall, my experience was nothing like it was built up by Scott and was overall completely disappointing. I hope this review helps someone else make a better choice of outfitters.
Definitely true what the other reviews say, if you’re one of his rich repeat clients, you will have a great time. Repeat customers get the first choices.
New people get brand new guides. My guide, guides 3 wks a yr with DM and was in his second season. He had about as much clue as I did on how to mule deer hunt. He had no binoculars and was using a long range camera as his spotting scope. Maybe somebody is skilled enough to do that, but 90% of the limited deer we saw, were spotted by me. He was a really nice guy, but not the skill level I had expected for a trip this price. He will be a great guide with some experience. His notes as we learned were copious and when he guides next in this area, he’ll be waaay more knowledgeable. Scott’s justification was that he can’t find enough people to guide, but for a client laying this kind of money, it’s his job to find a better solution than a poor experience.
The quote of 80%-90% opportunity rate at 40 yds or less isn’t in any way true.
The pre-scouting was limited to some night time pics of two bucks on 5,000 acres. Guide had little to no prep of the area we were headed to. He had never guided the area and no additional intel on deer patterns in the area. For a trip of this caliber, I would have expected a knowledge of patterns and pre-planned areas for hunting based on previous scouting. Night time pics at feed buckets is inventory, not scouting.
The hunting conditions were tough while we were out, hot and little to no wind. This is still a hunting trip and I expected to work for it. However, when the entire group (5 hunters in camp) were struggling to find deer and specifically bucks, there was no action taken by the DM team to help locate animals. No work to put additional scouts in the field and locate animals, no urgency on checking game cameras. Scott did go check cameras, but didn’t bother to look at or share what he saw until AFTER the next hunt. There was plenty of time to view the photos before the next hunt. I will say, late in the week he did allow us to move areas, but the guides were now starting over with an even more blank slate. The guides had never even visited the areas…..
What DID happen is a hunter on a “management deer” hunt bumped a hit-list deer and Scott’s repeat client was moved INTO ANOTHER HUNTER’S AREA to harvest the hit-list buck. Despite the target list buck traveling with other potential shootable deer, client was moved to a different part of the property to make way for Scott’s more valued repeat client. Who was successful. It got even better when my guide told me about another instance from the last few weeks where a hit list buck was seen but not pursued because “that buck is bought and paid for buy another client.” Another example of, if you are wealthy enough, you’ll have the best experience at Deer Meadows.
Overall, my experience was nothing like it was built up by Scott and was overall completely disappointing. I hope this review helps someone else make a better choice of outfitters.
