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Best Elk Broadhead
What do ya think is the best head for elk? I been lookind at the land sharks but don't know how they fly.
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Magnus Stingers 85 or 100 gr,they work great.
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I shoot light carbons so I use a 125gr head. Do they make one? How many elk have you taken with one? How well do they group with your field points?
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i shoot thunderhead 100 gr. heads. they fly great and do a really good job during and after impact. Everyone has their own prefences most as good as others id just pick a head that flys well for you and is sturdy and stick with that head. and dont use expandable heads. fixed blade heads will serve do you a lot more good in the long run because on shots that arent pass thoughs expandable blades fold back up and dont continue to cut inside the animal like fixed blades do and that can make a huge differnce. good luck out there.
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I shoot longbows and recurves with cedar shafts. I have used 125gr 2 blade Magnus, Zwickey, and 160gr Simmons Interceptors. They all perform great. I know several compound/carbon shooters who use 125gr Thunderheads with great results.
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For elk and large game, I prefer a cut on contact style. I had weak blood trails with a two blade as the hole would close up easier so I went with the 3 blade coc style. I switched to the razorcaps this year and they proved deadly on both an elk and a P&Y bear. Both were complete pass throughs and left tremendous blood trails. On any style arrow and setup, I will always go with a cut on contact with as close to a 3 to 1 ratio as I can getfor optimumpenetration and flight.
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cravinggame, yes magnus stingers come in 125 gr. I have had excellent results with both the Magnus Stinger and Steelforce Premium. They both fly right close to my field point and penetration just hasn't been a problem. I have found the Steelforce to be a little better interms of repeatable accuracy, flight in my setup and sharpness (both out of the package and retention). I shot an Bull elk and Black bear with 100grSteelforce 2 blade premium a few years back, in both case complete pass thrus and very little tracking required. On the black bear the arrow clipped the rear far shoulder and still exited. The blade looked almost reusable, the edge was rolled but no real damage...needless to say I haven't looked at another head since.
The razorcaps elkcrazy mentioned also look interesting/good. I also like COC heads, especially for bears, moose or elk. best of luck |
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I have been shooting muzzy's and i practice with old blades on them to see how each one flies. What do you do with these cut on contacts,resharpen? What type of tareg are you shooting them at?
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carvingame, I have had such good luck with either of the heads in terms of flight/poithat I really don't need many shots into the target with them. The first time I tried the magnus or steelforce I basicallyshot the lot on each arrow I had selected for hunting.Now I just remove one from the package "deem it as my practice head" and spin on each arrow in my quiver.With thesteelforce even after a few shots into a high density foam target were stillshave your hairsharp!! Being I was a muzzy shooter prior I'd say aftershots into the foam target they were still sharper than muzzy out of the package.
I sharpen all BH's on a lansky, it only takes a few passes to knock the burrs off with the medium stone and then switch to the fine to finish it. I have never reused a broadhead after it has been thru an animal. FYI, Steelforce will resharpen your used heads in the off season for the cost of shipping, if you desire. For broadheads I use the 4" high density foam targets with the removable center inserts as Ispin off theBH before removing the arrow. They are reasonable enough,small/easy to pack withand work. |
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In my opinion Montec is by far the best. The only broadhead I know of that you can drop a bull and recover your broadhead for the next days hunt. I know I did it. They are single piece steel that you can resharpen when necessary. No flimsy blades to worry about. If you dont believe me, find Antler Eater on the site and ask him. He field tests everything before he uses one. He uses Montec.
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Most everything out there is really wicked and will kill what they hit. I use the 125 gr Thunderheads because they hit exactly where my 125 gr field tips hit. I've killed elk, deer, and bear and they always have held up. Seems most my buddies use them also and for the same reasons.
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ORIGINAL: BareBack Jack Magnus Stingers 85 or 100 gr,they work great. |
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Thunderhead 125gr. My friend use the Muzzy 125gr. They both seem to be equal on penetration, flight, and durability.
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silverflames come out of the box stupid sharp
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I'll start off by saying; Ive never killed an elk with my bow, as a matter of fact, Ive never killed anything bigger than a 150# Whitetail with my bow. So, with that said...
I shot MagnusII2 Blades (125gr.) this year out of both my compound and recurve, and I dont think Ill ever shoot anything else. Both deer I killed (Yes, I realize a whitetail is a far cry from a 800 pound bull elk) were dead in less than 80 yards, my last one in less than 50. The Magnus completely blew through my last deer, with a quartering away shot, shooting "only" a 46# recurve. He didnt bleed well because of the high exit wound, but the doe before him (Double lung shot / 52# Compound) left a blood trail a blind man could have followed. Anyway, both broadheads are in perfect condition (Still Shave Hair!) after the shots. Oh, I had to start shooting a single broadhead at a time with both bows, because I was tearing off too many feathers and spliting too many nocks...on my field point arrows. So yes, they hit right with (orjust plain "hit") your field tips. The Stingers would prolly fly better from a high speed set-up, and if you're wanting a three blade, check out the Snuffers. Hope I could help...just my two cents... |
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Thunderhead 125gr. My partner likes the Thunderhead 100gr. We both get pass throughs and good blood trails. They have never let us down.
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The best broadhead for Elk sized animals is a Cut on Contact head, bar none!! Sure many fixed blade heads have harvested elk, but "COC" are best when you hit undesireable areas, and it does happen.
The ones that are best in the "COC" world are ones that will penetrate the scapula of an elk & reach the lungs!!! This is one of the biggest reasons for unrecovered elk, lack of penetration in areas such as this!!! Don't be a recipient of this to find out the hard way!! If you shoot an un-godly amount of KE, (kinetic energy) you can blast through the scapula with the better fixed blades. If you don't, look at Magnus heads, Silver Flames, Razorcaps, Swickeys & the like. You won't be sorry on those marginal hits!! Not promoting bad hits, but am promoting heads that will get the job done!!!----------------------------------------ElkNut1 |
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Not to infringe on the broadhead topic - just trying to get the whole scoop, but what kind of fletching is being used to obtain the tight groups being mentioned? It appears that everyone is promoting the COC or at least fixed blades, which generally seem to increase the potential for flight problems-especially with winds etc in Elk country. I was considering trying helical vanes and maybe the nap QuikSpins. Worth the effort?
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Bear Claw, as long as your bow is in perfect tune youcan use a strait fletch with zero offset and your arrow with broadhead will fly strait. With that said this past year I did use the quickspins, with a one degree offset. When I use different vanes like the blazer, duravanes and others I use a strait fletch with a five degree offset. I like the quickspins because it does help shrink my groups, but the down side is they are a bit more noisey. Now about the wind, well no fletching will help your arrow overcome/beat the wind. If the wind is blowing it can and will blow your arrow off course. How much willdepend on how far the distance is to the targetand howhard the wind is blowing. Plus arrow weight and speed factor in as well. Like a bullet a heavy arrow will not be affected as much as a lighter arrow in the wind. With elk hunting I would have to be hunting in hurricane winds before I was worried about my arrow getting blown around. The reason why is because my shotshave beenand will continue to be close and my target/vital zoneis big. On the other hand with muleys and antelope the shots can be longer andthe vital zones small. The wind can play havoc wtih accuracy, so shooting in strong winds with the quick spins or helical fletchingyou could have a tigher group but youmightnot have a clue on where that group will hit until after the first shot is taken. I will not shoot over 40-45yards at any animal, and if the wind is bad I will choose to get closer.
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I like those Silver Flames but WOW. $20 a head. Man can you get them any cheaper somewhere? The Zwicker's look good too but I need a screw-on head. Have anyone of you tried the NAP Razorbaks. I definately plan on moving to a COC head but don't know if I can get the damage I want with a 2 blade. May go with a 4 blade or one that has bleeders. thanks again for all the replies. Cravingame
Also hasanyone had any bad experiences with the new Blazer fletchings? May go with them as well, next year. |
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I have heard good things about the blazers and know several people who shoot them. If you are looking at a blade with 3 blades that is cut on contact, I would look at the razorcpas. I took several animals with them this year. One of which was a whitetail in Nebraska that went clear through the spine and 4 inches into the cavity. I blew clean through bear and elk without slowing down. I know that I will be shooting the same heads this year.
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Elkcrazy8--As I wrote in my earlier post, the Razorcap is a great head to consider!! I packed out a bull this year with a good friend of mine and my son, the friend had taken a 5-point with the Razorcaps, I'll say that's one tough head!!
I'm considering shooting one this year to see what I think of them? You got a used one you want to let go of?? Of course my bow will probably sling it a little on the slow side, but that's OK!!!! <grin>---ElkNut1 |
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Paul, I don't think getting rid of one would set me back too far if you want to see how they shoot. The head that went through the spine was pretty much in brand new shape, Just a slight bend over on the tip(very little) and the blades were not even distorted. I was really impressed. They are very easy to resharpen after practicing also. Not that they really need it but I do anyway.
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I bet there are dozens out there that will work fine, Killing Elk with a expandable and slick tricks as I did..You guessed it, it's where you shoot them that counts. U could argue whats better penetrating when u don''t make a good shot but lets not go there. just use one that flies good and you can hit what u aim at. IMHO
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Expandables for large game would not be my recommendation. Shot placement is always the utmost whatever situation that may arise. However it is nice to have some extra insurance in case a situation arises beyond what you have planned. I always look for a head with as close to a 1-3 ratio as I can get for both penetration and flight characteristics. I also look for a cut on contact style, and have recently gone with a 3 blade design to create an extra wound channel for better blood trails. Over a 2 year period I took 9 animals with a 2 blade and the blood trails were less than suficient as far as I am concerned. All animals were recovered with some effort. This year on all 4 animals that I took with the 3 blade COC, I had blood trails that blind man could follow with pass throughs on all but one in Nebraska in which I center punched the spine, that head passed through the spine and went 4-5 inches into the cavity. I also like to shoot around 250-260 fps for optimum flight. At these speeds I can get the pinpoint accuracy that I get with my tartget bow. I am not one to accept close enough. Kraton brings up a good point though, as shot placement is always key to good success no matter what head is used. I like to use every advantage that I can get............. Also, be careful in hunting some of the western stateslike Idaho, in some expandables are outlawed.
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uhmm, one with a spear point design with rearward body probably in a point two-seven-zero caliber available in a one hundred and fifty grain category.
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