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today i got invited on a all expenses payed moose hunt in colorado. the only problem is that i need some suggestions on a rifle.the choices are a model 700 remington in 30-06 with a 3-9 40mm scope or a savage 110 7mm rem mag with a 3-9 40mm scope. id also like some suggestions on bullet weights for theese calibers. thanks

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that savage 110 in 7mm mag is what i use every fall in BC moose hunting. It will handle anything you shoot. just remember to shoot a well constructed bullet and shoot within your ability and it will do just fine. I love my savage....real accurate shooter. that being said i have shot moose with my 308 and a bunch have been shot with a 270. shoot straight and have fun its a blast and dont let anyone tell you the fun is over when you pull the trigger. getting them out is half the fun in my opinion

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I would definately go with the 7 Mag. You'll want all the knockdown power you can muster for moose. As far as ammo goes, A couple of good options are Remington's 150gr. Swift Siroco and Winchester's 160gr. Supreme Fail Safe. Both are hard-hitting rounds ideal for heavy game. Good luck on your hunt. Let us know how it goes.

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Make sure that it has great knock down probally 7mm or 300 mag what id choose.

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Both have plenty of KE and penetration to tackle a moose so I would pick the 30-06. The 30 cal will produce a larger wound path than the smaller 7 MM bullet on a pass thru.I feel the 308caliber180 Grain Nosler Partition or TBBCwill outperform any 7mm bullet when put where it counts.

If you go with the Federal High Energy load you will also have more KE than any 7MM factory load. The 06 HE load produce 3315 LBS KE and even more importantly 74 LBS/Momentum at the muzzle.With the HighEnergyammo you can push a bigger/heavier bullet with more KE and more momentum you can with the 7mm remmington mag. The point blank range (+ or - 3 inches) is nearly 300 yards with this load also.

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I PERSONALLY DO NOT THINK EITHER OF THOSE RIFLES WILL WORK FOR YOU ...YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED TO TAKE EITHER ..ON THE OTHER HAND I HAVE ONE THAT WOULD WORK GREAT SO CAN I GO IN YOUR PLACE ;>))

ROLL TIDE
DD

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from what ive been hearing from other hunters is that a 7mm round would work good. id go with a 178 grn hand load by barnes or hornady. ive also heard great things of the win supreme fail safe.my 7mm is sighted in for 300yds with 150 grn rounds and it also has a bi pod on it. my other question is what is some of the best shots on a moose.would a neck shot or a front shot at the base of the neck take one down for theese are some of my favorite deer shots.

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I have a 30.06 and I love it,...for deer hunting in Michigan. I have never hunted moose, but I can imagine that you could very well have a shot opportunity of 300+ yards. At these kind of distances, the 30.06 is falling fast and loosing energy. The 7 mag maintains energy and trajectory out further. Go with the 7 Mag.

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I shot this one with a Ruger 6.5mmSwede/ 156gr Norma

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.Ruger 6.5mmSwede/ 156gr Norma, 1995

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I'AM A 30 cAL. mAN ,SOI USE MY 30-06 WEATHERBY in everything I hunt, for a moose I would use as it already have being recommended the Federal Premium 180 Gr, Will do it.
Remember that it is Shot placement that kills ,not the size of the gun.
My cousin shot 1400 lbs Bison last year with a 270 and federal premium 125 Gr. The Guide at the Cheyene Sioux reservation in Pier S. Dakota thought he was nuts, one shot and the Bison was down, placed right in the heart.

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^^^^What he said. People get so hung up on bigger is better. A 30-06 will take about any big game. The only reason I would ever consider using a 338 or 375 would be if Griz were in the area, then you need that knock down power in self defense.

I shot a bull moose three weeks ago with my 30-06, 220gr. Thing dropped like a 1,000 lbs bag of cement. Granted it was shot only 30 yds away. :D

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I have .243 Ruger, 6.5mm Ruger, .270 Win,7mmMag Ruger,
.30-30 Win,.30-30 Mar, .30-06 Ruger, .338 BRN, .358 BLR and
I shot the moose I posted with the 6.5mm Ruger Swede 156gr
Norma.

My advise to all young folk that are getting started with
thier families, children and thier jobs, is go to Wal-Mart
and get yourself the Savage Combo in the caliber that
you like. It will kill them as good as all the ones mentioned above.

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Either will work. I'd go with the 30 cal personally.

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Either will work, so pick which ever one you feelconfident inand shows you the best return on paper. I am not sure what moose hunting is like in Colorado but long shots here in Saskatchewan and moose don't usually go hand in hand.So you'll have to find out what the expected ranges will be then deciede whichcombo gives you the best return. Moose are large animals with thick hides, large bones and muscles. They require a solid constructed bullet as such but in all honesty aren't real hard to topple. I'd suggest the following style bullets;
Nosler partitions, TBBC, swift A frames, win failsafe or Barnes. For the conventional lead bullets in the .308/180 gr or .284/160 gr will get it done. For the all copper bullets you can drop a weight if you like or stick with the same.

I am not a neck shooter so my suggestion is put it behind the front shoulder and go collect your moose...they don't go far after being hit in the vitals. I harvested mooseby way of rifle, ML& bow I can't recall a single moose that covered 100 yards after being hit with the vitals as my target.

I leave sunday for moose. Like mentioned the fun really does begin after the trigger is pulled. Last year it took us7 hours to get the meat out and back to camp on my bull. The other bull was gratious enough to fall in a location that only required a path to be chainsawed so it only took a few hours as we could haul him out whole with the quad/trailer. Worth every minute though, just wonderfuleats them swamp donkeys provide.

Best of luck and enjoy your hunt.

FYI, both bulls we harvested last year with 160gr/.284 bullets. Mine was 7mm rem mag 160gr Nosler and the other 280 rem 160 gr failsafe.

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There's absolutely no reason to pick one over the other based on knockdown power or trajectory (IMHO, of course!). Both are excellent moose guns. Unless you plan to shoot at long distances and have difficulty judging distances at longer ranges. If you examine the balistics and power of the cartridges at, say, 50 - 200 yards, there is very little if any functional difference for killing a moose. The "boiler room" target presented by a moose is huge and a couple inches difference in trajectory at those ranges is way beyond meaningless. They are big animals, but aren't that hard to kill if you have a good shot at a reasonable range. Even a "heart shot"gives you about an 8+ inch circle.The difference in knock down power and/or bullet dropat those ranges is insignificant and the '06 has many shell/bullet options in a 180 grain while the 7 mag generally sends a 160 gr in common shells.Furthermore, if your gun will shoot well with one of the '06 high energy cartridges (mine won't), the '06 will essentially shoot the same or better as a 7mm mag in terms of trajectory and power at moose hunting ranges.

If you have difficulty judging 250 vs 300 yds, or haven't practiced shot placement at 300+ yds to compensate for drop, the impact point could be aproblem with your '06, slightly less so for the 7mm mag.

I've taken several moose at those (50 - 200) ranges with one killing shot with my '06, always aimed dead-on, always hitting well within the boiler room. The moose sometimes drop, sometimes walk 75 yds. just like whitetails do with the same gun and same shots. My friend has done the same with his 7 mag. Other friends havehad the same experience with .308 and .270. On a recent major hunt, with long time experienced and successful moose hunters our guns were: (3) 30-06; (1) 7 mm mag (1) .375 HH; (1) .308. The guy with the .375 told me the only reason he has it is that way back when, he had a 30-06 for moose hunting and it was lost or destroyed. He needed a gun quickly and found the .375, and has used it since. Not for it's additional power, but because it works and that's all he wants from a gun. The two moose killed, single shots each, were taken by an '06 and the .308. If I were to go after moose or other game which requires longer distances, I might buy a 7 mm mag just for it's flatter trajectory and marginally better foot/lbs at longer ranges with the lighter bullets. But to me the most improvement over an '06 would be a .30 mag, not a 7mm slug(which is closeto a .270). But for moose, sincerely, you should be shooting at ranges that are well within the "virtually equal" zone for both rifles.

Which do you like and shoot better- chose that one and don't give it another thought.Sight it in with a premium bullet that makes you confident in accuracy. Moose just aren't that hard to kill. They're hard to find, get to, and get a shot at in a place that makes recovery of the dead animal a reasonable chore. The size of them not only makes you want to shoot at a shorter distance (for quick-kill and recovery purposes), but also gives you a huge kill-zone target. Be careful to consider packing before shooting, and have fun!

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HEY REB DID YOU COUNT TO THREE AND GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO DRAW?

ROLL TIDE
DD

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the calibers are a toss up, the 06 allows for heavier bullets. but the real issue is wether you like the savage or the remington.

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in my opinion i think the 7mm would be better cause i can load some 178 grn hand loads that i think would be better for the moose plus its sighted and preped for longer distances.plus the savage would be better for wet weather if we incountered it due to its synthetic tock.i think ill choose the 7mm with 178 grn hand loads. thanks for all the help guys