max the dog

Thanks for the opinions guys. I'm just intimidated by falling again. Before I fell I took all sorts of foolish chances that could've got me killed. Now I'm nervous when I get over 10 feet but these deer have a radar that can see all unless you go over 20 feet. I probably won't use hang on stands again as they just never feel to stable to me. A pernament stand is just too,,,, unmovable. On my property a 20 yards can make the difference between a good hunt and not seeing a single deer all day long.
I'll probably stick to the climbers and use ladders where I think I won't have to move it for a while.