RE: how far...30-30, 44 Ruger Mag
Although it may not be 'optimum', I have shot a lot of deer past 125 yds with my open-sighted model 94 .30-30. They couldn't read the ballistics tables though and that rifle was all that I had to hunt with. Now that my eyes aren't so good, and I'm better edjumacated, I would probably limit my shots with that rifle to 100 yds.