ive never shot copper john. The reson is b/c of no micro adjust.

So ill stick to what i have shot. I have had a cobra (cant remember the model name but it was a newer one). I liked it fine. Very bright and not overly complicated. im tough on equipment and it help up well. I sold it with my old bow to make a few extra bucks.

On my outback I have trophy ridge sights, again not sure of the exact model but is the the lowest end one i could get in cammo with the micro adjust. I have had no problems with movement or breakage. I love the micro adjust and quick adjust individual pins. i also like the vertical pin setup.

I also have some dislikes on the TR. i dont think the level works. I wish there were individual windage adjustments for the pins. YOu can only adjust windage on the whole group, making perfect installation necesary so that the 40 yard hits the same as the 20 yd left and right. My other complaint is brightness. I dont want to buy the little nitro lights so my cobra was brighter.

Overall i am satisfied enough with the TR not to replace it. I had great success in taking deer with it this year but i like to think i would have with any decent sight. If copper john had been out with the micro adjust sight at this time last year and i new what i do now i would look hard at that sight.

Good luck and take your time to get what you want
TG