Hello deerslayer. If you are deer hunting, the 165gr bullets are the ticket especially for longer range shots. The BC of the 165 gr makes it fly flatter and have more energy at ranges over 300 yards. My son shot two deer with the nosler combined technology 165 grain bal. tips this year with outstanding results. The Hornady SST's are good deer bullets also. If you are hunting elk...go to the 180 nosler partition....they have a new one out this year that is bonded...sounds interesting, good luck and regards, Rick.