Shew--and I thought the water buffalo hunt was expensive! Rich, one outfitter you might want to check with is www.goldeneaglecamp.com . This is where some of us (including myself and Kip) went a few years ago. It's under a new ownership, due to the former owner's having some medical problems and not being able to continue running it, but I reckon they had quite a few bears back then. GEC is in Northern Ontario. I can find out about another in Manitoba--had a fellow contact me about a week ago about a black bear he got there with his Hunter II that the guide estimated at 650# plus. The skull scored 19 11/16 (if you know what that means--I don't). It was a dang big bear anyway--he sent me pictures--shew!

Chad