I'm guessing that The870 is probably about 14 years old, maybe an immature 16, and has clearly demonstrated that he's not worth talking to, and I for one won't be wasting my time offering my advise to his questions until he learns to respect others and treat them as he would like to be treated.
870,
I don't personally know oldelkhunter, but I've been around this board for awhile and know that here he is an upright guy. I also know that he's not ignorant about firearms like you appear to be judging from you other posts, so you have to have a lot more balls than brains to call him an idiot when you can't even figure out how to zero a rifle.
http://forum.hunting.net/asppg/tm.as...1&key=󑚂
Mike