OK there seems to be no love for the 3.5". I have in fact stopped shooting the 3.5 loads for turkey, I now use lighter HEVI SHOT loads. My thinking is that the guns are basically identical size wise, might as well not close the door on the option of using them at some point. I handled a 11-87 today and definitely have dropped that one from the list. Way too heavy! I also handled the Beretta and a Benelli M1. The Benelli fit like a glove and weighs nothing compared to the remington. This gun gets carried all day over many miles during winter jackrabbit hunts. I am leaning to that one at this point. Question: What is the differnce between the M1 and the SBE?