killed one my second year of hunting...first year youth could take does in rifle season...hunted a long day to see a few tails....rained all day too...coming off the mountain he was running right for us....i hid behind a giant tree and shot him when he was broadside with me adn the tree......from a few FEET away....it was my second deer....i check now....and been shooting the biggest maturest does with no teeth in their mouths at all since.....now that im hunting with a flinter alot i gota be careful....i know im going to be passing a few just to be safe.....i may slip up but dont plan to kill any on purpose......