I've been tossing the same thing around in my head (I know , scary

) since that last thread.
Arthur makes some excellent points! I came to the conclusion myself that it has to be the deflex riser for one simple reason. I've shot alot of reflex riser bows with 8" brace heights and longer ATA that didn't compare to the forgiveness I had with the deflex riser bows I've owned in the past. The newer (reflex riser) bows are all being manufactured with slim grips to eliminated hand torque. My old bows with the deflex risers had grips similar to a pachmyre(sp?) pistol grip and yet I can shoot them much better. Go figure!